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Can someone give a TL/DR for this? I don't have 40 minutes to invest and the first few minutes didn't give me the impression it was going to be worthwhile. Bu

by MCRed 11y ago

Can someone give a TL/DR for this? I don't have 40 minutes to invest and the first few minutes didn't give me the impression it was going to be worthwhile. But I would like to run containers on "Bare metal"... which for me right now means running containers under CoreOS (which is running on the bare metal... so no VMs.)

dmourati 11y ago
Joyent chose BSD which does containers better than Linux and Cantrill is pissed that everyone chose Linux+VMs.
- jclulow 11y ago
  > Joyent chose BSD which does containers better than Linux and Cantrill is pissed that everyone chose Linux+VMs (Disclaimer: I sit next to Bryan at Joyent) We chose _SmartOS_, a distribution of illumos -- itself a fork of the last drop of OpenSolaris before Oracle closed the gate. It is emphatically not a BSD, though Solaris has included aspects of at least AT&T UNIX and BSD (amongst other things) in its long and rich heritage.
  - dmourati 11y ago
    Thanks for the correction. I should have gotten that right. I don't think the talk mentioned Illumos at all. EDIT: he did mention Illumos but he was talking really fast.
  - RantyDave 11y ago
    I'm starting to totally love SmartOS. Kudos to you and colleagues.
  - RantyDave 11y ago
    I'm starting to totally love SmartOS. Kudos to you and colleagues.
sriram_malhar 11y ago
Solaris/Illumos/SmartOS (Joyent's O/S, Joyent being Cantrill's company that offers a public cloud like AWS), has built-in lightweight containers that have all the right isolation characteristics (esp. security) Docker/CoreOS build upon Linux primitives for isolated name spaces, but security is a problem because of Linux's flawed implementation. But Docker is the flavor of the month, even though it is technically inferior to SmartOS's. So they (Joyent, Cantrill's company) wrapped SmartOS with the docker remote API, so when you do 'docker ps', you see all the VMs in the entire data center. The whole cloud works as one machine.
gbraad 11y ago
Here is a TL/DR; in one word: Triton

by MCRed 11y ago

dmourati 11y ago

Joyent chose BSD which does containers better than Linux and Cantrill is pissed that everyone chose Linux+VMs.

jclulow 11y ago
> Joyent chose BSD which does containers better than Linux and Cantrill is pissed that everyone chose Linux+VMs (Disclaimer: I sit next to Bryan at Joyent) We chose _SmartOS_, a distribution of illumos -- itself a fork of the last drop of OpenSolaris before Oracle closed the gate. It is emphatically not a BSD, though Solaris has included aspects of at least AT&T UNIX and BSD (amongst other things) in its long and rich heritage.
- dmourati 11y ago
  Thanks for the correction. I should have gotten that right. I don't think the talk mentioned Illumos at all. EDIT: he did mention Illumos but he was talking really fast.
- RantyDave 11y ago
  I'm starting to totally love SmartOS. Kudos to you and colleagues.
- RantyDave 11y ago
  I'm starting to totally love SmartOS. Kudos to you and colleagues.

sriram_malhar 11y ago

Solaris/Illumos/SmartOS (Joyent's O/S, Joyent being Cantrill's company that offers a public cloud like AWS), has built-in lightweight containers that have all the right isolation characteristics (esp. security) Docker/CoreOS build upon Linux primitives for isolated name spaces, but security is a problem because of Linux's flawed implementation. But Docker is the flavor of the month, even though it is technically inferior to SmartOS's. So they (Joyent, Cantrill's company) wrapped SmartOS with the docker remote API, so when you do 'docker ps', you see all the VMs in the entire data center. The whole cloud works as one machine.

gbraad 11y ago

Here is a TL/DR; in one word: Triton