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Yet we don't see terribly much christian terrorism, buddhist terrorism or agnostic terrorism. All kinds of people are impoverished but we only see extreme viol
by guard-of-terra 11y ago
Yet we don't see terribly much christian terrorism, buddhist terrorism or agnostic terrorism.
All kinds of people are impoverished but we only see extreme violence from one background. This rules out poor suburbs as prime cause.
One can argue mass shootings of US of A is another example, but it doesn't seem to exist much outside of USA.
- adventured 11y agoMass shootings have a very low correlation to poverty. Aurora, Columbine, Newtown, Isla Vista, et al. - none of them had anything to do with poverty.
- guard-of-terra 11y agoDoesn't that reinforce my point? It's not poverty, it's culture.
- georgeoliver 11y agoNor do we see ISIS launching drone strikes on Iowa.
- guard-of-terra 11y agoIf they could, they would.
- georgeoliver 11y agoYou've completely missed the point. The thought that "we only see extreme violence from one background" is absurd at best and willfully ignorant at worst.
- giaour 11y agoThat is absolutely false. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/03/25/deadly-violence-between-myanmar-buddhists-muslims-spreads-to-3-more-towns-in/ http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/03/25/deadly-violence-betw... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-t...
- guard-of-terra 11y agoYour second link makes sense, it's actually very similar profile to Charlie Hebdo attack. First one, not so much. Ethnic tensions are not terrorism. We can add right wing to the list.
- jacquesm 11y ago> Ethnic tensions are not terrorism. That is a matter of perception for many. When someone attempts to burn down a Mosque or a Synagogue for some that is 'ethnic tensions' for others those are acts of terrorism. It's not clear-cut at all and the whole freedomfighter/terrorist duality makes it even harder to determine which label to apply and when.
- Gys 11y agoMy central thought is: people with nothing to loose who want to make a point. If I remember correctly, most Islamic terrorists in Western countries are not born Islamic. They are just people susceptible to any way of making a point, being heard.
- guard-of-terra 11y agoWhere you end up: Fresh Muslim immigrants are a threat. Muslim immigrants' descendants are still a threat. Freshly converted Muslim are also a threat. A frightening pattern isn't it?
- Gys 11y agoThe frightening part is people that think this is all about religion. Or even worse about a specific religion. Because I think its not. Its about people having nothing to loose and other people who use the opportunity (using religion). In the end its all about power.
- guard-of-terra 11y agoIn the end it is all about culture. There are healthy cultures and there are poisonous ones. Everybody fails under much pressure, but some cultures much much readily than others. To quote other comment from HN, I don't want to live near islamists and my mother doesn't want to be called a whore in arabic for not wearing hijab - yeah my mum speaks Arabic. Power is often used as an argument to justify losing decency. This is unfortunate.
- hackuser 11y ago> There are healthy cultures and there are poisonous ones. Everybody fails under much pressure, but some cultures much much readily than others This is psuedo-sociological bullshit, pardon my French. Provide some serious basis for it, and your condemnation of over a billion individuals based not on their actions, but on their religion. People who believe in Islam live in many, many cultures, from Indonesia to India to Iran to Senegal to Morocco to Spain to China to France to many more. You can't even remotely call it one culture.