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Serious question. We're all problem solvers here. There has got to be a better way to get our elected leaders to pay more immediate attention to blatantly immor
by alistproducer2 11y ago
Serious question. We're all problem solvers here. There has got to be a better way to get our elected leaders to pay more immediate attention to blatantly immoral and unconstitutional stuff like this.
As developers and engineers we should come up with a technology to force issue on things like this. I'm pretty tired of reading a story like this and feeling helpless to change it,
- woah 11y agoGet out there and join political organizations. Another website just isn't going to change things.
- alistproducer2 11y agoI don't know twitter is "just a website" and it's helped change lots of things all over the world, so......
- Retra 11y agoTwitter's influence in politics is not really the result of the programmers' efforts. It's the result of the politically active people using it. The Twitter platform is at best necessary but not sufficient for its effects. But lots of things are in the same boat. All basic utilities are required for twitter to work, but you wouldn't credit food, waste, and electric companies for such things. And at worst, Twitter isn't even necessary.
- alistproducer2 11y ago@Retra A tool is always only as good as the person using it. The point is webstites and IT can make a difference.
- wickedlogic 11y agohttp://watchdog.org/226188/civil-asset-forfeiture-new-hampshire/ http://watchdog.org/226188/civil-asset-forfeiture-new-hampsh... https://freestateproject.org/ https://freestateproject.org/
- AnimalMuppet 11y agoIn the US, there are two major political parties. Those who oppose this kind of garbage need to join both of them (one side per person). Also, you need to be active at a local and state level, not just a national one.
- vezzy-fnord 11y agoelected leaders There's your problem. Why are you electing people? That's completely backwards. Electing people is allocating labor and incurring production costs without evaluating demand signals. It is ideas that must be debated and voted on, and have people fill in to execute them. Only by having information on what policy is desired will you able to properly apportion the production costs and allocate the representative labor in fulfilling said policy. Otherwise you suffer from principal-agent problems in having to trust proxies to execute their ideas, with the proxies you are capable of electing being highly limited in their ideological diversity by result of optimizing for the wrong information.
- mywittyname 11y agoWe each can only elect two people to represent our interest in Congress.
- alistproducer2 11y agoSo direct democracy then? That presents it's own problems like the majority being in favor of something horrible, like the internment of muslim citizens after a terrorist attack.
- vezzy-fnord 11y agoThat's a misrepresentation of what direct democracy is. You're still bound by a framework of statutory and common law, along with oversight from the various branches of government. It's not mob rule. Not to mention unjust internment already occurred despite representative democracy (in fact directly emanating from elected executive power), that of Italians, Germans and Japanese during WWII. Let's also not discount land law acts and a host of other attacks on civil liberties.
- joncrocks 11y agoBut if the majority are in favour of horrible things, then will they not elect horrible leaders as well? And are we not just relying on elected leaders not doing horrible things anyway?