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>>Even if it is working, would that make it ok? What about rape? Should it be criminalized? Is that worth a scientific study from nature? If raping someone cou

>>Even if it is working, would that make it ok? What about rape? Should it be criminalized? Is that worth a scientific study from nature? If raping someone could potentially be used to save a lot of lives then we would have that debate. It doesn't though so. Everyone agrees that torture is bad in itself, the problem arise when not applying it would lead to even worse things happening. If torture works it's immoral to not use it in those situations, that's why there is a debate.

rdtsc 11y ago
> could potentially be used to save a lot of lives then we would have that debate One can conduct various hypothetical experiments of course. Rape is used in uncivilized societies or parts of societies as punishment (by village elders), it is used by brutal violent and primitives countries as a condoned acceptable spoil of war that commanders would turn their eyes away from, or just build a comfortable quarters for it and supply a steady stream of victims (like Japanese did during WWII in China), it increases fear and makes it easier to control people (just like torture) and so on. What would you think of a society that does it and then also starts discussion the merits of that in a scientific journal. Instead of treating like a topic for lunatics and crazy people we are treating it like we are discussing the results of a chemical reaction, that is what I am talking about, sane people finding excuses and studying torture as a valid topic.