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I had the same feeling about the last bit of the article. Drama for no reason. I would be glad if the tech community focused more on tech than on shitstorms. S

by eis 11y ago

I had the same feeling about the last bit of the article. Drama for no reason. I would be glad if the tech community focused more on tech than on shitstorms. Some people are just too sensitive. If you don't like how Linus behaves, then don't deal with him. Noone forces you. But why post an article on your blog which is associated with Mozilla including a gist of collected swear words? At least Linus didn't engage in some meta-drama nonsense. unfamiliar: I don't agree though that this makes Linus a unstable person. In fact I'd say if people can't swallow some swear words, then they are in turn not emotionally strong enough.

SolaceQuantum 11y ago
There's no reason that anyone would need to be emotionally strong enough that in a company with adults in which the focus is working together on technology, they should expect to get sworn at a few times as an acceptable interaction with their peers.
- spacecowboy_lon 11y ago
  In normal interactions actually no - there are a few very rare situations where it might be appropriate to use expletives for emphasis. Day to day project work is not one of those.
- eis 11y ago
  They don't have to expect it or even accept it. They can, if they want to. But they could as well just tell Linus he's a jerk. Or filter out the technical aspects of his post and ignore the rest. Or stop working with Linus. But there is no reason to create a wide discussion around this, imho.
enneff 11y ago
> If you don't like how Linus behaves, then don't deal with him. Noone forces you. Linus' status in the Open Source community makes him a role model for some people (whether he likes it or not; I suspect he doesn't), and so people imitate him. It's much less palatable coming from someone with less credibility and experience.
- anonbanker 11y ago
  if the alternative is SJW's watering down the discourse, I'll take thirty more Linuses, thanks.
- eis 11y ago
  That's another problem. Maybe adult people shouldn't have role models that they blindly copy in every way.
  - eis 11y ago
    To the downvoters: may I ask for a reason? Are you saying blindly copying people is a good thing? I don't get it.
dingaling 11y ago
> If you don't like how Linus behaves, then don't deal with him. Noone forces you. That's a pretty steep hurdle for potential contributors to Linux. But I suppose that's BSD's gain.

by eis 11y ago

SolaceQuantum 11y ago

There's no reason that anyone would need to be emotionally strong enough that in a company with adults in which the focus is working together on technology, they should expect to get sworn at a few times as an acceptable interaction with their peers.

spacecowboy_lon 11y ago
In normal interactions actually no - there are a few very rare situations where it might be appropriate to use expletives for emphasis. Day to day project work is not one of those.
eis 11y ago
They don't have to expect it or even accept it. They can, if they want to. But they could as well just tell Linus he's a jerk. Or filter out the technical aspects of his post and ignore the rest. Or stop working with Linus. But there is no reason to create a wide discussion around this, imho.

enneff 11y ago

> If you don't like how Linus behaves, then don't deal with him. Noone forces you. Linus' status in the Open Source community makes him a role model for some people (whether he likes it or not; I suspect he doesn't), and so people imitate him. It's much less palatable coming from someone with less credibility and experience.

anonbanker 11y ago
if the alternative is SJW's watering down the discourse, I'll take thirty more Linuses, thanks.
eis 11y ago
That's another problem. Maybe adult people shouldn't have role models that they blindly copy in every way.
- eis 11y ago
  To the downvoters: may I ask for a reason? Are you saying blindly copying people is a good thing? I don't get it.

dingaling 11y ago

> If you don't like how Linus behaves, then don't deal with him. Noone forces you. That's a pretty steep hurdle for potential contributors to Linux. But I suppose that's BSD's gain.