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I know their planes are a tiny bit smaller but has anyone not heard of Embraer planes? They've sold over a thousand of these jets but CNN don't think they are

I know their planes are a tiny bit smaller but has anyone not heard of Embraer planes? They've sold over a thousand of these jets but CNN don't think they are worth mentioning? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_E-Jet_family#E-190_and_195 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_E-Jet_family#E-190_and...

aeharding 11y ago
My OCD now wants an aircraft manufacturer starting with a D. Airbus-Boeing-Comac-D????-Embraer. Who wants the D?
- sithadmin 11y ago
  There was a time when Douglas aircraft were king (DC-series), prior to merger with McDonnell in the late 60s, then Boeing more recently.
- dingaling 11y ago
  Only really Dassault left to fill that sequence and they don't compete directly in that market any more ( though their Mercure fuselage lives on in the A320 series. Marcel Bloch wanted something wider than the 737 for marketing purposes ). The "D"s appear to be cursed; de Havilland Canada, Dornier and ( McDonnell )-Douglas have all disappeared since 2000.
- iSnow 11y ago
  Too bad Douglas was swallowed.
- ant6n 11y ago
  Dumbardier
  - goatforce5 11y ago
    Bombardier is currently being bailed out by the Quebec government to the tune of $1bn, so that's another (almost) D company that's not doing so great: http://business.financialpost.com/investing/trading-desk/bombardier-inc-could-need-a-second-bailout-within-12-18-months-scotiabank http://business.financialpost.com/investing/trading-desk/bom...
- kpilzen 11y ago
  Fokker is pretty much dead too.
- SixSigma 11y ago
  DASA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Aerospace_AG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Aerospace_AG
bpodgursky 11y ago
I end up on EMB-145 or 175s frequently, going through mid-sized airports a lot. I love them. - Boarding the whole plane takes ~10 minutes, compared to an interminable 30-40 minutes of waiting in line for a 737. - 2-2 or 1-2 seat configurations means you don't have to crawl over 2 people to use the restroom - Deboarding is just as fast as boarding, so I don't miss connections - No gate available? No problem! Get off on the tarmac and walk a couple feet, it won't kill you. I can only hope more airlines move towards small planes over medium-haul distances, with fewer connections.
- caio1982 11y ago
  The founder and former CEO of JetBlue happens to also own Azul in Brazil so if you happen to be in the country and fly with them chances are nearly at 100% that will be inside an Embraer (which is also a Brazilian company, that's why). Embraers are the most quiet and comfortable passengers aircrafts I've ever seen, I have no idea why other major companies won't operate with them given they cost -- what? -- 50% of a Boeing/Airbus?
  - jccooper 11y ago
    They're nice, but they're small. Since many operational costs (gates, pilots, infrastructure) don't change with plane size, and because many airports are already flight-limited, it usually makes sense to use larger airplanes.
  - hga 11y ago
    A whole bunch of things don't scale down as the overall size of the plane does, so operating a smaller Embraer isn't a a casual decision even before you get into the limited number of gates available in desirable airports. They are very, very nice based on two flights I took on a couple of them a decade ago, much nicer than turboprops. They seem to have achieved a good niche, a quick look with Wikipedia suggests the company is healthy and that their passenger jets have a very good safety record.
JoblessWonder 11y ago
The range of Embraer's fleet sets them much more in line with regional airlines. Embraer's jets don't have the range (and don't want) to compete with the Boeing/Airbus models the C919 hopes to challenge.

aeharding 11y ago

My OCD now wants an aircraft manufacturer starting with a D. Airbus-Boeing-Comac-D????-Embraer. Who wants the D?

sithadmin 11y ago
There was a time when Douglas aircraft were king (DC-series), prior to merger with McDonnell in the late 60s, then Boeing more recently.
dingaling 11y ago
Only really Dassault left to fill that sequence and they don't compete directly in that market any more ( though their Mercure fuselage lives on in the A320 series. Marcel Bloch wanted something wider than the 737 for marketing purposes ). The "D"s appear to be cursed; de Havilland Canada, Dornier and ( McDonnell )-Douglas have all disappeared since 2000.
iSnow 11y ago
Too bad Douglas was swallowed.
ant6n 11y ago
Dumbardier
- goatforce5 11y ago
  Bombardier is currently being bailed out by the Quebec government to the tune of $1bn, so that's another (almost) D company that's not doing so great: http://business.financialpost.com/investing/trading-desk/bombardier-inc-could-need-a-second-bailout-within-12-18-months-scotiabank http://business.financialpost.com/investing/trading-desk/bom...
kpilzen 11y ago
Fokker is pretty much dead too.
SixSigma 11y ago
DASA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Aerospace_AG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Aerospace_AG

bpodgursky 11y ago

I end up on EMB-145 or 175s frequently, going through mid-sized airports a lot. I love them. - Boarding the whole plane takes ~10 minutes, compared to an interminable 30-40 minutes of waiting in line for a 737. - 2-2 or 1-2 seat configurations means you don't have to crawl over 2 people to use the restroom - Deboarding is just as fast as boarding, so I don't miss connections - No gate available? No problem! Get off on the tarmac and walk a couple feet, it won't kill you. I can only hope more airlines move towards small planes over medium-haul distances, with fewer connections.

caio1982 11y ago
The founder and former CEO of JetBlue happens to also own Azul in Brazil so if you happen to be in the country and fly with them chances are nearly at 100% that will be inside an Embraer (which is also a Brazilian company, that's why). Embraers are the most quiet and comfortable passengers aircrafts I've ever seen, I have no idea why other major companies won't operate with them given they cost -- what? -- 50% of a Boeing/Airbus?
- jccooper 11y ago
  They're nice, but they're small. Since many operational costs (gates, pilots, infrastructure) don't change with plane size, and because many airports are already flight-limited, it usually makes sense to use larger airplanes.
- hga 11y ago
  A whole bunch of things don't scale down as the overall size of the plane does, so operating a smaller Embraer isn't a a casual decision even before you get into the limited number of gates available in desirable airports. They are very, very nice based on two flights I took on a couple of them a decade ago, much nicer than turboprops. They seem to have achieved a good niche, a quick look with Wikipedia suggests the company is healthy and that their passenger jets have a very good safety record.

JoblessWonder 11y ago

The range of Embraer's fleet sets them much more in line with regional airlines. Embraer's jets don't have the range (and don't want) to compete with the Boeing/Airbus models the C919 hopes to challenge.