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I eagerly await reading the next headline in 10 years: "Even larger analysis finds that low-fat diets have low impact" And then in 20 years: "Large analysis

I eagerly await reading the next headline in 10 years: "Even larger analysis finds that low-fat diets have low impact" And then in 20 years: "Large analysis finds that low-salt diets have low impact" But I think I'll die before low-fat and low-salt foods stop being marketed, since there never really was any good evidence for them in the first place...

torrent-of-ions 11y ago
People seem to very readily believe that things which they enjoy are bad for them. It's a funny thing. So the appeal of "low x" where x is something generally nice will probably not go away.
- vlehto 11y ago
  One of the most amazing is "r/nofap" in reddit. Some dude said in TED talk that "We have no idea how porn affects brain. Porn happened suddenly and now we don't even have a control group because everybody is doing it." And with some logic this is good reason to stop masturbating altogether. This of course doesn't work out. Regular guy is going to get pretty irresistible urge at some point. And that's instrumental for it too. Because relapses enforce your quilt and wallowing in quilt is part of the appeal. Another part is "competing in faith", they have no-fap clocks there too. Some people do the similar guilt tripping with food and exercise. I hear lot of: "It's bad to drink after workout. You reset your hard work." Also some people seem to think that chips and anything "organic" balance each other out.
  - torrent-of-ions 11y ago
    Well there are also people on there who really do have a problem to the point of addiction. It absolutely can negatively effect your sex life and even your entire life. What I see on there is more that people like to accept that a panacea exists to improve their entire life. It's a nice thing to believe, but it's rarely true.
hga 11y ago
The way marketing goes is something else, all right. Back in the '70s my mother fed us standard Oscar Meyer bacon, which I still think is the best (albeit perhaps under-cooked by most people's standards). Back then it was advertised as being "Sugar cured", that's evidently part of its unique taste. I just started adding ~100 calories explicitly including some fat to my normal 200 calorie bagel breakfast, and that includes a couple of slices of said bacon every few days. Which is no longer advertised as "Sugar cured", (instead it's "Hardwood smoked" or the like), it still has sugar in the label ... and it needs only a bit of salt to be every bit as good as it was in the '70s.

torrent-of-ions 11y ago

People seem to very readily believe that things which they enjoy are bad for them. It's a funny thing. So the appeal of "low x" where x is something generally nice will probably not go away.

vlehto 11y ago
One of the most amazing is "r/nofap" in reddit. Some dude said in TED talk that "We have no idea how porn affects brain. Porn happened suddenly and now we don't even have a control group because everybody is doing it." And with some logic this is good reason to stop masturbating altogether. This of course doesn't work out. Regular guy is going to get pretty irresistible urge at some point. And that's instrumental for it too. Because relapses enforce your quilt and wallowing in quilt is part of the appeal. Another part is "competing in faith", they have no-fap clocks there too. Some people do the similar guilt tripping with food and exercise. I hear lot of: "It's bad to drink after workout. You reset your hard work." Also some people seem to think that chips and anything "organic" balance each other out.
- torrent-of-ions 11y ago
  Well there are also people on there who really do have a problem to the point of addiction. It absolutely can negatively effect your sex life and even your entire life. What I see on there is more that people like to accept that a panacea exists to improve their entire life. It's a nice thing to believe, but it's rarely true.

hga 11y ago

The way marketing goes is something else, all right. Back in the '70s my mother fed us standard Oscar Meyer bacon, which I still think is the best (albeit perhaps under-cooked by most people's standards). Back then it was advertised as being "Sugar cured", that's evidently part of its unique taste. I just started adding ~100 calories explicitly including some fat to my normal 200 calorie bagel breakfast, and that includes a couple of slices of said bacon every few days. Which is no longer advertised as "Sugar cured", (instead it's "Hardwood smoked" or the like), it still has sugar in the label ... and it needs only a bit of salt to be every bit as good as it was in the '70s.