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Yes, and because of that, the entire design of the case is compromised, it feels like it's flexing all the time in use, it's far less durable, it contains addit

by Bud 11y ago

Yes, and because of that, the entire design of the case is compromised, it feels like it's flexing all the time in use, it's far less durable, it contains additional cheap plastic mechanical failure points and extra connectors for said easily-replaceable battery, and all this for a part which, in the normal lifetime of most well-built laptops (aka Macs), will never ever need to be replaced.

Someone1234 11y ago
Nothing you said there has described any Thinkpad I've ever owned. Even after they got worse (post-IBM). I've never seen the battery compartment be the source of physical issues. Typically it is the hinges on the LCD that give up or the case cracks in one of the four corners. Mostly the case remains solid and the hardware within blows up.
oconnore 11y ago
> all this for a part which, in the normal lifetime of most well-built laptops (aka Macs), will never ever need to be replaced. My laptops last 4-5 years. This battery failure was at 1.5 years. I just replaced mine after 2 years.
gtk40 11y ago
I have never experienced that with a T450s. Granted, I use a different Thinkpad day-to-day, but I get my hands on T450s as they're the standard issue where I work.
jcadam 11y ago
I refuse to buy a laptop with no user-replaceable battery. I expect to need to replace the tires/brakes on my car, and I expect to replace the battery in my laptop. If you keep your laptops long enough, you'll eventually have to deal with replacing a battery. My two-year old Dell latitude E6530 is solid (and admittedly heavy), with no noticeable flex. It has an easily replaceable battery as well as user-upgradeable RAM! I'd call it a well-made piece of hardware. I expect to replace the battery in the next year or so (the battery is starting to show its age by now, but at least it still works). A bit off-topic: My previous laptop, a C2D Macbook Pro (old enough it had a replaceable battery) developed a swollen battery after 2 years. At the 3 year mark I had to open it up and replace a failed case fan (and a hard drive). Also, the optical drive failed within the first year, as did its warranty replacement. I eventually gave up on that (and removed the drive so it would stop churning incessantly) and bought an external USB drive.
Daishiman 11y ago
Your "cheap plastic" is my "case that just gets a little dent when it falls", which in the case of an MB deforms the entire case and probably breaks something in the process.

by Bud 11y ago

Someone1234 11y ago

Nothing you said there has described any Thinkpad I've ever owned. Even after they got worse (post-IBM). I've never seen the battery compartment be the source of physical issues. Typically it is the hinges on the LCD that give up or the case cracks in one of the four corners. Mostly the case remains solid and the hardware within blows up.

oconnore 11y ago

> all this for a part which, in the normal lifetime of most well-built laptops (aka Macs), will never ever need to be replaced. My laptops last 4-5 years. This battery failure was at 1.5 years. I just replaced mine after 2 years.

gtk40 11y ago

I have never experienced that with a T450s. Granted, I use a different Thinkpad day-to-day, but I get my hands on T450s as they're the standard issue where I work.

jcadam 11y ago

I refuse to buy a laptop with no user-replaceable battery. I expect to need to replace the tires/brakes on my car, and I expect to replace the battery in my laptop. If you keep your laptops long enough, you'll eventually have to deal with replacing a battery. My two-year old Dell latitude E6530 is solid (and admittedly heavy), with no noticeable flex. It has an easily replaceable battery as well as user-upgradeable RAM! I'd call it a well-made piece of hardware. I expect to replace the battery in the next year or so (the battery is starting to show its age by now, but at least it still works). A bit off-topic: My previous laptop, a C2D Macbook Pro (old enough it had a replaceable battery) developed a swollen battery after 2 years. At the 3 year mark I had to open it up and replace a failed case fan (and a hard drive). Also, the optical drive failed within the first year, as did its warranty replacement. I eventually gave up on that (and removed the drive so it would stop churning incessantly) and bought an external USB drive.

Daishiman 11y ago

Your "cheap plastic" is my "case that just gets a little dent when it falls", which in the case of an MB deforms the entire case and probably breaks something in the process.