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A ketogenic diet recommends less than ~30g of carbohydrates a day. A gram of sugar is a gram of carbohydrates. Ketosis is a multifaceted, complex, biological p

A ketogenic diet recommends less than ~30g of carbohydrates a day. A gram of sugar is a gram of carbohydrates. Ketosis is a multifaceted, complex, biological process that depends on many variables. However, it is potentially somewhere to start investigating a 'critical limit' to judge how much sugar can be processed by your body.

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pierrec 11y ago
30g of carbohydrates a day seems extremely low. The ketogenic diet is not a general-purpose diet, it's a therapeutic diet used to treat specific medical conditions. Also, sugars are only a specific type of carbs, so carbohydrate intake should not be compared directly to sugar intake.
- toomuchtodo 11y ago
  > The ketogenic diet is not a general-purpose diet, it's a therapeutic diet used to treat specific medical conditions. https://www.reddit.com/r/keto https://www.reddit.com/r/keto would disagree with you. I myself stay below 20g of carbohydrates per day, and I lose ~3lbs a week on the diet, while eating cheese, meat, and green vegetables. I feel phenomenal, still get to eat food I enjoy, and wouldn't go back to a traditional carbohydrate-heavy diet if I was paid to.
  - cossatot 11y ago
    I don't have any opinions on the diet itself, but if you're losing 3 lbs a week, this means that either you started out very obese or haven't been on the diet for very long. I'm glad it's working for you now but this doesn't necessarily mean that the diet will be the optimal for 10+ years.
    - toomuchtodo 11y ago
      Very true! I started at 200lbs (I'm 5' 6", 32 years old) and cut out soda. That got me down to ~175lbs. Keto is helping me get down to ~150lbs.
      - kaitai 11y ago
        And once you're at 150, it's only 50 weeks until you are weightless! No disagreements on keto being useful for many. For those who want to maintain their weight, though, it's not often the right diet. So I'd argue it's not "general-purpose."
      - cossatot 11y ago
        That's awesome, I hope it keeps working out for you.
  - nawitus 11y ago
    Since when did the discussion about diet's healthiness turn into weight loss discussion? You can lose 1.36 kg per week on any diet if you restrict calories, for example, but that's not really relevant here.
    - toomuchtodo 11y ago
      > You can lose 1.36 kg per week on any diet if you restrict calories This line gets parroted around here constantly (its just thermodynamics! calories in calories out!), yet more evidence continues to be provided that macronutrient balance matters, as does gut bacteria. EDIT: What if dieting turns out to be as easy as naturally selecting bacteria for the gut that can't break down carbohydrates easily, and selling it as a probiotic pill that replaces you're existing gut bacteria? Wouldn't that be a huge win for public health policy? And before anyone comes in and says that's not possible, check out this women who became obese from a fecal transplant from an overweight donor: http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2015/02/04/Woman-becomes-obese-after-fecal-transplant-from-overweight-donor/1581423067944/ http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2015/02/04/Woman-becomes-obes...
      - nathan_f77 11y ago
        That pill would be awesome. I would actually be willing to try one of those fecal transplants, if I could find someone who has a very high metabolism. It's a bit of a strange thing to ask someone, though. I have a relative with IBS, and he swore he'd never do it, even if there was a good chance at curing his disease. I guess it grosses out most people, but I don't really care.
        toomuchtodo 11y ago
        If you're interested: http://www.openbiome.org/ http://www.openbiome.org/
    - xorcist 11y ago
      Isn't a diet you lose weight from the very defintion of an unhealthy diet? Sure, it might be what you need if you start out in an opposite but equally unhealthy state, but in the long run consistent weight loss is fatal. It might not feel relevant to you, but large parts of the population in the world find themselves in that very situation through no choice of their own.
  - enraged_camel 11y ago
    I don't think a subreddit is an authority on anything. Please provide more substantive evidence, such as peer-reviewed scientific literature.
    - toomuchtodo 11y ago
      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2367001/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2367001/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945587/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945587/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3826507/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3826507/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4113752/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4113752/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23651522 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23651522
  - atomical 11y ago
    Everyone who posts lipids on /r/keto has horrible cholesterol. Then the other readers of the sub chime in that it's okay to have high cholesterol. Don't worry about it! Check out this TED talk!
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pierrec 11y ago

30g of carbohydrates a day seems extremely low. The ketogenic diet is not a general-purpose diet, it's a therapeutic diet used to treat specific medical conditions. Also, sugars are only a specific type of carbs, so carbohydrate intake should not be compared directly to sugar intake.

toomuchtodo 11y ago
> The ketogenic diet is not a general-purpose diet, it's a therapeutic diet used to treat specific medical conditions. https://www.reddit.com/r/keto https://www.reddit.com/r/keto would disagree with you. I myself stay below 20g of carbohydrates per day, and I lose ~3lbs a week on the diet, while eating cheese, meat, and green vegetables. I feel phenomenal, still get to eat food I enjoy, and wouldn't go back to a traditional carbohydrate-heavy diet if I was paid to.
- cossatot 11y ago
  I don't have any opinions on the diet itself, but if you're losing 3 lbs a week, this means that either you started out very obese or haven't been on the diet for very long. I'm glad it's working for you now but this doesn't necessarily mean that the diet will be the optimal for 10+ years.
  - toomuchtodo 11y ago
    Very true! I started at 200lbs (I'm 5' 6", 32 years old) and cut out soda. That got me down to ~175lbs. Keto is helping me get down to ~150lbs.
    - kaitai 11y ago
      And once you're at 150, it's only 50 weeks until you are weightless! No disagreements on keto being useful for many. For those who want to maintain their weight, though, it's not often the right diet. So I'd argue it's not "general-purpose."
    - cossatot 11y ago
      That's awesome, I hope it keeps working out for you.
- nawitus 11y ago
  Since when did the discussion about diet's healthiness turn into weight loss discussion? You can lose 1.36 kg per week on any diet if you restrict calories, for example, but that's not really relevant here.
  - toomuchtodo 11y ago
    > You can lose 1.36 kg per week on any diet if you restrict calories This line gets parroted around here constantly (its just thermodynamics! calories in calories out!), yet more evidence continues to be provided that macronutrient balance matters, as does gut bacteria. EDIT: What if dieting turns out to be as easy as naturally selecting bacteria for the gut that can't break down carbohydrates easily, and selling it as a probiotic pill that replaces you're existing gut bacteria? Wouldn't that be a huge win for public health policy? And before anyone comes in and says that's not possible, check out this women who became obese from a fecal transplant from an overweight donor: http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2015/02/04/Woman-becomes-obese-after-fecal-transplant-from-overweight-donor/1581423067944/ http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2015/02/04/Woman-becomes-obes...
    - nathan_f77 11y ago
      That pill would be awesome. I would actually be willing to try one of those fecal transplants, if I could find someone who has a very high metabolism. It's a bit of a strange thing to ask someone, though. I have a relative with IBS, and he swore he'd never do it, even if there was a good chance at curing his disease. I guess it grosses out most people, but I don't really care.
      - toomuchtodo 11y ago
        If you're interested: http://www.openbiome.org/ http://www.openbiome.org/
  - xorcist 11y ago
    Isn't a diet you lose weight from the very defintion of an unhealthy diet? Sure, it might be what you need if you start out in an opposite but equally unhealthy state, but in the long run consistent weight loss is fatal. It might not feel relevant to you, but large parts of the population in the world find themselves in that very situation through no choice of their own.
- enraged_camel 11y ago
  I don't think a subreddit is an authority on anything. Please provide more substantive evidence, such as peer-reviewed scientific literature.
  - toomuchtodo 11y ago
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2367001/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2367001/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945587/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945587/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3826507/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3826507/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4113752/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4113752/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23651522 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23651522
- atomical 11y ago
  Everyone who posts lipids on /r/keto has horrible cholesterol. Then the other readers of the sub chime in that it's okay to have high cholesterol. Don't worry about it! Check out this TED talk!
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