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Classeur.io: Re-enjoy writing, with Markdown
- andybak 11y agoHey. It respects my line-breaks without making me jump through hoops. Non-standard markdown but a welcome decision. Numbered lists with gaps and line breaks are still impossible sadly. I'll see if my other personal pet gripes against Markdown are handled any differently when I remember what they are. Admittedly Word and many other wysiwyg editors are sometimes less than helpful in this area but at least it's possible without resorting to tricks such as using double-dots to defeat the auto-formatting.
- jdbernard 11y ago> It respects my line-breaks without making me jump through hoops. And that's why I don't like it. I want to be able to wrap the source without forcing the output to wrap too. Totally a preference thing. Wish there was a way to change it according to your preference.
- k2enemy 11y agoThe thing that would make all these markdown editors a killer app for me is an easy way to link between documents. Something like vimwiki, where you can surround a word or group of words with "[[" "]]" and it turns that word into a [[link]]. These apps are great for editing a single document, but fall down when you want to create a notebook or set of interlinked notes.
- tingol 11y agoWhy not vimwiki?
- k2enemy 11y agoThat's what I'm using now. Sometimes it would be nice to be able to drop in an inline image though.
- unfunco 11y agoYou could use GitHub. You can link to other documents in the repository using relative paths, there's an editor that's decent, and you get versioning for free too (assuming it's a public repository.)
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- Sir_Cmpwn 11y agoI worked with a friend of mine to write a documentation generator for assembly code. It lets you write your docs with markdown, and has "[[syscall]]" syntax to link to another syscall from your docs. Example: http://www.knightos.org/documentation/reference/threading.html#killCurrentThread http://www.knightos.org/documentation/reference/threading.ht... https://github.com/KnightOS/kernel/blob/06aeba5442a073d023380f1b961f06375f843bb8/src/00/thread.asm#L169 https://github.com/KnightOS/kernel/blob/06aeba5442a073d02338...
- akrymski 11y agoThat's actually why we've created http://enterprisewiki.co http://enterprisewiki.co
- masukomi 11y agoGitbook https://www.gitbook.com/ https://www.gitbook.com/ allows relative links between markdown files. if foo.md links to bar.md with [Bar](bar.md) then Gitbook handles the conversion to the appropriate HTML file name when it generates the book. Yes it's intended for "books" but I find it pretty damn useful for anything that would benefit from a table of contents, and the ability to search...
- SamyPesse 11y agoGitBook also have conrefs (content reference): http://help.gitbook.com/format/conrefs.html http://help.gitbook.com/format/conrefs.html
- orbifold 11y agoWell org mode in emacs allows you to do that. I expect anyone reading Hackernews is probably better served by something like org mode in emacs running on some server that is remotely accessible. Then you can use something like tramp to connect to it and edit all your notes in one place. Alternatively just put them under version control and you are able to edit them offline. I really don't see how an app that implements maybe 1% of all useful features a good editor has could compete for the attention of technical users.
- mbrock 11y agoCan you imagine collaborating with someone who doesn't know how to use Org-mode?
- orbifold 11y agoOrg mode works on text files that are formatted in a specific way, the basic syntax is not more or less complicated than Markdown, so you can in principle use it from any editor you want. The way I usually collaborate on things like papers / technical documentation is to assign specific sections, parts of the exposition to different people. I think it is rarely productive to edit the same part of the document at the same time, but I might be wrong or simply haven't found a use case. Admittedly so far I have used Latex for serious projects, there you simply create a master skeleton file and then people work on different sections individually. The choice of editor then doesn't matter. Something similar could be done with org mode. I've only used org mode only for personal note taking, todo lists and drafting documentation, but I would imagine it would scale fairly well to small teams using it.
- mbrock 11y agoYou claimed that ANYONE on Hacker News would be better served by using org-mode through tramp on a remote server. If instead you had only said that YOU enjoy doing that, there would be nothing to disagree with. Generally, I think it's a pretty good principle to refrain from making blanket statements about how other peoples' projects are unnecessary or whatever.
- SlyShy 11y agoI have markdown link autocompleting in this project: https://github.com/zencephalon/zencephalon-mt https://github.com/zencephalon/zencephalon-mt Unfortunately I haven't extracted it for public consumption yet, but feel free to take a shot.
- azeirah 11y agoYou can try out brainstorm: github.com/Azeirah/brainstorm, Tags can be used to semantically link notes, or if you want to link to another note, you can just use []() markdown link syntax, each note has its own url. You can try the demo at sandstorm.io (install brainstorm as an app) Or you can try a slightly older version here: http://brainstorm-notes.meteor.com/board/Home http://brainstorm-notes.meteor.com/board/Home Is that similar to what you're looking for?
- k2enemy 11y agoLooks pretty cool, but I had trouble getting the links to work just using a note title. I'm also looking for something native that will operate on a folder full of text files (for easy backup, syncing, and versioning).
- elrodeo 11y agoCheck out https://wikizen.click https://wikizen.click. It's a simple markdown Wiki persisted in your Dropbox.
- Mimick 11y agoI like it, waiting for the Linux application... Hope to see more of this as application and not as web apps, I really don't like this new web apps trend.
- joeyspn 11y ago> I really don't like this new web apps trend. I think the desktop apps will be probably also web apps... (built with nw.js or electron).
- coldtea 11y agoOnly the simpler or the worse ones -- trading speed, utility, connection to the OS, etc for ease of development.
- vfrogger 11y agomeh, if it's a single developer, asking native apps for every platform on a donation ware doesn't seem fair to me.
- coldtea 11y agoNo, I mean in the general case of web apps replacing desktop apps. I'm not convinced Atom for example will ever overcome its pain points that are a result of the technology it uses (breaking down on larger files, slowness, GC pauses etc). Of course for smaller shops, donation or freeware etc, it's fine. And for apps like Slack, which are glorified web pages.
- Mimick 11y agoIt's more like for using the skills they know than ease of development. Web is more common this days that developers fear the working directly with an OS... Years ago developers used to code websites on languages intended for the OS (tools to make that easier was there) and today we see the opposite.
- ewillbefull 11y agoJust used the interface... wow I love it. I need something exactly like this.
- ateevchopra 11y agoDue to missing support of `Markdown` in Blogger, I have been waiting for such tool for a long time. Thanks to the team. I will use if for some time and see if it can replace my evernote too.
- renke1 11y agoDeleting words (Ctrl-Backspace) does not seem to work.
- inlinevoid 11y agoYep. Seems like a really basic feature to lack.
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- vbsteven 11y agoThe UI looks and works nice. I specifically like the the markdown quick reference in the bottom right corner.
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- hnatt 11y agohttp://www.dillinger.io/ http://www.dillinger.io/ is much alike, minus several integrations, collaboration and discussion.
- sandGorgon 11y agoThe editor is great, but the UX flow between creation, upload to Wordpress, save, export is very confusing. I have not been able to figure out how the connect to Wordpress works in the first place. The top menu fails to work when in full-screen browser mode (on chrome) because the "you've gone fullscreen" popup blocks access to the top menu.
- nlte 11y agohttps://stackedit.io/ https://stackedit.io/ is my markdown editor of choice. You can sync your documents with Google Drive, Dropbox, publish to GitHub. Really not easy to beat, in my opinion. However, there's no live collaboration feature currently in Stackedit so I'm interested to see what Classeur has to offer in this respect. (Now I see that Stackedit and Classeur are related projects, apparently both authored by https://github.com/benweet https://github.com/benweet).
- gabriele 11y agothey're from the same dev [1]. dunno how they stack up against each other. [1] https://twitter.com/benweet https://twitter.com/benweet
- aembleton 11y agoI'd not seen that before. Really like how it looks, and how easy it is to use.
- Turbots 11y agoIt appears stackEdit has a link where they advertise the classeur beta so I think they'll be moving to that platform. They appear very similar
- anotheryou 11y agoI really like that you can write html tags inline. Do you know which "flavor" or extension does this?
- ptman 11y agooriginal Markdown?
- n8m 11y agoWhen it comes to markdown I think I stick to Haroopad. It's cross platform and has pretty much all I need -> http://pad.haroopress.com/ http://pad.haroopress.com/
- visakanv 11y agoI use Byword, works for me, but if I weren't already very comfortable using that, I'd probably try using this. Nice.
- roobine 11y agoI would like to have an easy way to link between pages, and if possible specific sections of pages. Also a tag system would be nice.
- te_chris 11y agoI use and love Ulysses
- mrmondo 11y agoFrom your comment I just tried it out and immediately fell in love, it's exactly what I've been looking for. Thank you.
- kseistrup 11y agoIt looks cool, but it seems it's for Mac and iPad only…
- vagelim 11y agoDoes Ulysses have any collaboration integrations? I just glanced at their site and couldn't find anything mentioning collaborative editing.
- an6n 11y agoDear fellow hackers, I've been looking for an application setup with what I could write my personal (research) journal using vim with markdown annotation and with embedded multimedia (screencaptures, mostly). It would be great to have a possibility to attach files to notes, too. Of course I would like the setup to be open source. Does anyone have similar needs and perhaps solutions for them? I tried atom with vim-bindings-plugin and markdown-preview but somehow the UI just didn't cut it for me when compared to a native vim. Please, share your setup if you have anything that resembles my need!
- workbin 11y agoI use https://github.com/tpope/vim-markdown https://github.com/tpope/vim-markdown to write markdown files. And use http://fletcherpenney.net/multimarkdown/ http://fletcherpenney.net/multimarkdown/ to 'compile' the markdown file. To check the rendered output I have a key mapping to compile the current markdown file and open the generated html file.
- k2enemy 11y agoI'm looking for the same thing as you. On a mac, VooDooPad fits the bill but it is not open source and its future looks murky. If it were open source with an active community of users I think I would use it. This has kept me on vimwiki with .md extensions so that vim will at least do syntax highlighting for markdown. You can easily link to local multimedia files, but they don't display inline. As a bonus, a diary entry for the day is just <leader>w<leader>w away.
- hyyypr 11y agoI'm using tiddlywiki [1] and I absolutely love it. You can host it where you want (owncloud works fine), and it has basically everything you just described. I edit mainly using the web interface, but you can also edit the "tiddlers" (each note) using any text editor. The note has it's metadata at the beginning of the file. I think I'm only using a very small % of TW's capabilities, but it feels like a very powerful tool. 1: http://tiddlywiki.com/ http://tiddlywiki.com/
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- vonklaus 11y agoI spent about an hour looking for a note taking app today. The problem with most markdown editors is that the note taker rarely reads the note in absentia. I mean, I read my notes as I write them and edit them, but more often than not, I am changing them as I read or consult them. The mou/macdown/classeur approach is to have a preview that can be toggled or visible in split screen mode. Conversely, notes.app on Mac works really well and you can write and read notes on the same "space" but it doesn't support markdown. Maybe I am an edgecase, but I would like to write notes in markdown and have them render line by line[0] so that I have one document and not an editor and a display. Almost wrote one myself but the opportunity cost of spending weeks making it (if I could even deliver) would likely not offset the bit of frustration I get using another editor. If this exists, I want it bad. [0] or like 3 lines at a time or whatever.
- octref 11y agoMaybe Typora[0]? [0]: http://typora.io/ http://typora.io/
- vonklaus 11y agoEveryone has a note taking app that fits their style. This seems as close as it can be for me. Love it. Also, I like how you cited it[0]. [0] in such a short comment.
- amk_ 11y agoNice. You can even set the default MD handler as Typora and use it like a wiki editor with relative links.
- girvo 11y agohttp://texts.io/ http://texts.io/ is my recommnedation. It's WYSIWYM -- write Markdown, view real formatted text. And it uses Pandoc under the hood, so it's exporting tools are awesome; and worst case, kick it out to XeTex and render it exactly how you want
- vonklaus 11y ago
- talles 11y agoThe pricing applies just to the web version or it has something to do with the desktop version too?
- jevgeni 11y agoI have a box at terminal.com with vim. Costs way less.
- wodenokoto 11y agoThis is a very slick app and a very nice landing page. Well done and good luck!
- himhckr 11y agoMy favorite one is LightPaper (http://www.ashokgelal.com/lightpaper-for-mac/ http://www.ashokgelal.com/lightpaper-for-mac/). With multitabs and a folder navigator, among others, I can keep and edit related documents together. I wish it had a vi mode but other than that it's perfect.
- singhrac 11y agoThis is very slick. Not to nitpick, but did anyone else find that some (important) keyboard shortcuts were missing? Ctrl/Alt-Backspace in particular didn't work for me. Though I guess vim doesn't have support for that either.
- alkonaut 11y agoWow, have been using computers since age 6 and been a professional dev for 15 years, never even heard of ctrl+backspace :D Thanks. (I tend to use ctrl+shift+left/right to highlight, then delete. That tends to always work)
- alkonaut 11y agoYes! Like dillinger (and others) but with proper inline html support (that is: I can have documents with data tables without having to inline images for it).
- bachmeier 11y agoNice interface, latex support, code block support, doesn't lock up your data, uses pandoc rather than reinventing the wheel. That's how it's supposed to be done. I'm not sure I'm the target audience (would be hard to justify spending $5/month given my current workflow) but it would be an excellent way to collaborate. If it could handle really large documents, including organizing them into sections, this would be an outstanding tool for commenting on a student's dissertation (in particular, using a tablet).
- skybrian 11y agoAre there examples or documentation? What does it look like if you publish to Github?
- xenihn 11y agoCurious to get opinions on what you guys consider to be the best OSX app for note-taking in relation to day-to-day dev work, e.g. storing and retrieving documentation, code samples/snippets (with insets, formatting, and colored syntax, so that it's clearly separated from non-code text), etc... Doesn't need to support markdown. I love Quiver, but syncing it across multiple computers through iCloud is not reliable, otherwise it would practically be perfect. StackEdit is great, but I don't like how it's tied to a browser. I also don't like being forced to store everything on an external server. I'm willing to make an exception for iCloud because it's so damn convenient -- it's the only form of cloud storage that I use for personal documents. From reading this thread, I see that Classeur is from the same creator, which is great news :) Unfortunately, there's no desktop client yet, so it'd be nice to use something else until then. I currently store markdown (general insensitive documentation that doesn't need to be kept local) and Ruby/Objective-C files (for snippets/examples) on iCloud and read/edit/run them with Textmate.
- poxrud 11y agoTry nvalt for plain text notes.
- yoz-y 11y agoI usually use just the plain OSX Notes app. It has added more features that I care for and has some trouble _removing_ styles from stuff, but it works everywhere. If you paste in coloured code then it will keep the colours. I'd love to use Vesper, but no Mac client makes it a no go.