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Trust me CNN, it is hardly different from how we wage a war on the Internet (CISA, CISPA, TPP and what not). Do you not use that ton of cruft on your site with
by 70seconds 11y ago
Trust me CNN, it is hardly different from how we wage a war on the Internet (CISA, CISPA, TPP and what not). Do you not use that ton of cruft on your site with similar designs?
- finalink 11y agoTrust me, it is fundamentally different.
- voltagex_ 11y agoCISA, CISPA and the TPP aren't sending RSTs to connections they don't like, nor actively trying to negotiate with Tor endpoints so they can be blocked. They're also not rewriting Baidu to attack GitHub (yet).
- 70seconds 11y agoOh, I forgot to mention the NSA did I? Or let us talk about it's "fundamentally different" because it is always China behind all the wrongdoings against the Internet, my friends. But wait, keep the mechanics/micro aside. Tell me is there a difference in policy or what either systems want to achieve? None.
- voltagex_ 11y agoOkay, I'll even temporarily agree with you that the NSA is tapping and capturing traffic. They may even run Tor endpoints purely for analysis purposes. They're still not disconnecting people and then kicking in doors.
- venomsnake 11y agoIt is different - US is chasing monetarily goals mostly and NSA want to read everything. Chinese are trying to prevent thought crimes and political discourse. Although there are few isolated cases where DMCA was abused to stifle discourse, they are far and between.
- 70seconds 11y ago> "Want to read everything"? How is NSA wanting to read everything (if they don't already) any different from Chinese authorities reading everything? Different my foot. Looking at the quality of discussion here it seems we're living in that dumbfuck's paradise. For they say: when you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful and difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid. There is little difference in intent, monetary pursuit, lust of power, size of investment and scale of techniques used by either centre of powers. For exactly the same purpose.
- rsanders 11y agoThe Chinese authorities are preventing their citizens from reading things they find counter to their aims. You don't have to create this false equivalence to find both actions undesirable.
- neolefty 11y agoI think it's also partly monetary in China. For example, Baidu is thrilled that Google is blocked.
- Frqy3 11y agoThe US tends to more of an Orwell (monitor) and Huxley (distract) approach to control rather than heavy handed blocking. But then, they have more experience in propaganda than the Chinese.