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For the most part, their cars are better and they have a reputation for long lasting cars(At least I feel that is the case when compared to the other "comparabl

by monksy 11y ago

For the most part, their cars are better and they have a reputation for long lasting cars(At least I feel that is the case when compared to the other "comparable cars") You have a happy user base. I'm not too concerned with the whole emissions scandal: 1. I don't have a diesel and 2. Its a regulation issue. If VW acted in bad faith and degraded the guarenteed performance.. I would be pissed. We haven't see a response on what is going to happen so far. Most of the responses to the finding have been snarky comments about "how vw is bad." (We need to find out what went wrong and fix it... circlejerking about the whole issue, or the negative press, isn't going to do a lot of good)

BookmarkSaver 11y ago
>If VW acted in bad faith and degraded the guarenteed performance Um... That is exactly what they did. They falsified their emission test results. The car you are driving is NOT the same as the one that passed the tests. The fact that it was possible to deceive the tests does not change the fact that they were blatantly and illegally falsifying them. The performance of the vehicles when they pass the proper regulations is likely to be significantly lower than the advertised performance, because the LIED about the their emissions.
- monksy 11y ago
  It is only operating subpar when the test is being performed. Not during normal use
dnissley 11y ago
At least here in the US, my perception has been just the opposite. VWs not only cost more, but are less reliable than comparable vehicles. They seem to have the street price of a Honda/Toyota, but the reliability of a Nissan/Chevy/Chrysler, and their maintenance costs have a reputation of being about the same as a German luxury car (high). Hence their comparatively small market share here (3-4%). The one redeeming factor for VW seems to be powertrain options and selling a station wagon that isn't an SUV or a Subaru (Golf Sportwagen).
- superuser2 11y ago
  Volkswagen has excellent interiors. The $18k Golf feels in many ways like a $40k BMW 3-series. Most competitors' interiors are gaudy, cheap and plasticky, ugly, or spartan. Other than BMW, the only people selling the "German sportscar" experience are luxury brands, Volkswagen AG subsidiaries, or both. Depends on the model, but Golf for the last 5 years has gotten a Very Good (4/5) for reliability from Consumer Reports. They used to be terrible in the mid-2000s, but improved drastically since then.
  - selimthegrim 11y ago
    Driven a US Jetta lately?
    - monksy 11y ago
      Unfortunately they changed the Cloth seats into Leather in the newer generation. [Leather is a problem in the warmer states]
  - copperx 11y ago
    Whoa. What? If I could use only one adjective to describe VW it would be "plasticky". I've always seen VW interiors as incredibly austere. I drive a 2006 TDI Beetle and I find my 1991 Honda Accord to be more comfortable.
    - superuser2 11y ago
      I guess I'm excepting Beetle and focusing on Jetta and Golf. They're not everyone's thing, but I love them, and they have their niche.
- nawitus 11y ago
  At least in Finland the reputation of VW has dived in the past few years due to major reliability issues. (Automatic) transmission and engine failures are "common". Specifically, I'd stay away from DSG transmissions and TSI engines.

by monksy 11y ago

BookmarkSaver 11y ago

>If VW acted in bad faith and degraded the guarenteed performance Um... That is exactly what they did. They falsified their emission test results. The car you are driving is NOT the same as the one that passed the tests. The fact that it was possible to deceive the tests does not change the fact that they were blatantly and illegally falsifying them. The performance of the vehicles when they pass the proper regulations is likely to be significantly lower than the advertised performance, because the LIED about the their emissions.

monksy 11y ago
It is only operating subpar when the test is being performed. Not during normal use

dnissley 11y ago

At least here in the US, my perception has been just the opposite. VWs not only cost more, but are less reliable than comparable vehicles. They seem to have the street price of a Honda/Toyota, but the reliability of a Nissan/Chevy/Chrysler, and their maintenance costs have a reputation of being about the same as a German luxury car (high). Hence their comparatively small market share here (3-4%). The one redeeming factor for VW seems to be powertrain options and selling a station wagon that isn't an SUV or a Subaru (Golf Sportwagen).

superuser2 11y ago
Volkswagen has excellent interiors. The $18k Golf feels in many ways like a $40k BMW 3-series. Most competitors' interiors are gaudy, cheap and plasticky, ugly, or spartan. Other than BMW, the only people selling the "German sportscar" experience are luxury brands, Volkswagen AG subsidiaries, or both. Depends on the model, but Golf for the last 5 years has gotten a Very Good (4/5) for reliability from Consumer Reports. They used to be terrible in the mid-2000s, but improved drastically since then.
- selimthegrim 11y ago
  Driven a US Jetta lately?
  - monksy 11y ago
    Unfortunately they changed the Cloth seats into Leather in the newer generation. [Leather is a problem in the warmer states]
- copperx 11y ago
  Whoa. What? If I could use only one adjective to describe VW it would be "plasticky". I've always seen VW interiors as incredibly austere. I drive a 2006 TDI Beetle and I find my 1991 Honda Accord to be more comfortable.
  - superuser2 11y ago
    I guess I'm excepting Beetle and focusing on Jetta and Golf. They're not everyone's thing, but I love them, and they have their niche.
nawitus 11y ago
At least in Finland the reputation of VW has dived in the past few years due to major reliability issues. (Automatic) transmission and engine failures are "common". Specifically, I'd stay away from DSG transmissions and TSI engines.