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I have to agree with the author: the Window's guy are usually the ones focused on Window's only solutions. Like, for example, a Windows admin having not heard o
by andyana 11y ago
I have to agree with the author: the Window's guy are usually the ones focused on Window's only solutions. Like, for example, a Windows admin having not heard of nmap. This is common.
- Const-me 11y agoСould you please estimate what share of *nix admins have heard about VBScript, PowerShell, WMI or group policy?
- andyana 11y agoI think you would find most unix admins know of those things. Powershell is your bash, WMI is your /proc. VBScript and group policy would be things you come across if you work with Samba.
- Const-me 11y ago“Powershell is your bash” — Cmd.exe is your bash. Powershell doesn’t process text streams, it operates on .NET CLR objects. PowerShell by itself is more like interactive python shell. But it’s power isn’t language or interpreter, but the amount of things exposed to that language. “WMI is your /proc” — also ifconfig, /var/log, /etc/fstab, /etc/network/interfaces, and a lot more, and with remote access. “VBScript and group policy would be things you come across if you work with Samba” — completely unrelated. VBScript is more or less your Perl, but again with lots of things exposed to the language (besides WMI, there are ADSI, CDO, etc). AFAIK there’s nothing in *nix world resembling group policy. “most unix admins know of those things” — you see? Most unix admins know almost nothing of those things. So why do you expect a Windows admin should know about nmap? On Windows, people usually use other tools instead of nmap, e.g. netstat, portqry, and tcpview.
- andyana 11y agoWe can elaborate on those all day, but I nailed the gist of it and you know it.
- Const-me 11y agoNo you haven't: powershell isn't bash, WMI is much more then a /proc, and both VBScript and group policy are completely unrelated to SMB/CIFS.
- andyana 11y agoVBScript would be something a Samba admin would know of due to VBS being used often for login scripts. Netlogon is a share you would have on your Samba server. Group policy is distributed over SMB. Is this news to you?
- Const-me 11y ago“VBScript would be something a Samba admin would know of” — a login script doesn’t have to be a VBScript, could be CMD as well, or just an EXE. WSH is a general-purpose scripting environment unrelated to samba. Professional Windows system engineers use VBScript to automate their tasks, or at least they did before Win7 took off, with the PowerShell built-in. “Group policy is distributed over SMB” — SMB indeed takes part in the distribution, however LDAP protocol plays key role here: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/canberrapfe/archive/2012/11/15/where-are-site-linked-group-policy-objects-stored-and-why-should-you-care.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/canberrapfe/archive/2012/11/15/where... Also it’s less important how they distributed or linked, it’s more important what they are — and AFAIK there’s no *nix equivalent.
- andyana 11y agoYou gotta be trolling me. Have fun.
- Const-me 11y agoI ain’t trolling. Your problem is, you know almost nothing about Windows, but you pretend you do. You don’t even know there’s no VBScript in Word. The language you wrote you Word macros in 90-s was called VBA = Visual Basic for Applications. Compared to VBScript, it even have different syntax, and of course, they serve different purpose: while VBS is for system engineers, they target VBA towards office users. BTW, I coded both in 90-s.
- andyana 11y agoAlso, please don't say that I don't know what those things are; I've spent more than a decade on each platform as developer/administrator and deal with both all the time. One of my first jobs was writing macros for Word in VBScript in the 90s.
- matwood 11y agoI haven't used Windows in years, so I'm sure there are Windows oriented tools I haven't heard of.