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> The Pandora app is the single most-used mobile app in the world Can this possibly be true? More used than Apple/Google/Spotify music apps maybe, but Facebook

by mcintyre1994 11y ago

> The Pandora app is the single most-used mobile app in the world Can this possibly be true? More used than Apple/Google/Spotify music apps maybe, but Facebook? Google search seems hard to believe too? I mean 80m users, "many on their phone" when Facebook have put up 1b users in the same day and I'm pretty sure surpassed 50%+ mobile usage?

CPLX 11y ago
I read that with an implied "most used mobile [music] app" but it is a genuinely confusing sentence.
timcameronryan 11y ago
Perhaps it's usage by time? i.e. Pandora left on in the background.
- thaumasiotes 11y ago
  The launcher and lock screen do come to mind...
smackfu 11y ago
They are pretty up there, but no, not the top, which is Facebook as you would expect. http://qz.com/481245/these-are-the-25-most-popular-2015-mobile-apps-in-america/ http://qz.com/481245/these-are-the-25-most-popular-2015-mobi...
- pointytrees 11y ago
  That's a list of most popular, not most used.
tstubben 11y ago
I think they mean by time spent using the app. Pandora is used a lot in the background.
sleet 11y ago
Perhaps they define usage based on time? It seems reasonable that users would spend 1b/80m = 13 times the amount of time listening to music than they do interacting with Facebook.
- beedogs 11y ago
  > Perhaps they define usage based on time? That's a pretty shady thing to do.
  - teej 11y ago
    You think that defining "most used" by "usage" is shady?
    - justizin 11y ago
      If I spend 3 minutes taking a picture to post on Facebook via my iPhone Camera App's integration with Facebook, where does that weigh in?
- SirensOfTitan 11y ago
  If you're going to use that metric, use ~1.25 B for Facebook (monthly actives on mobile). 1.25B/80m = ~16 times. The average Facebook user in the US spends about 40 minutes on FB per day (not sure of mobile vs desktop breakdown): 16*40minutes = 10 hours per day on Pandora on average. Absolutely no way.
  - jbverschoor 11y ago
    I'm not sure if "checking facebook" is the same as "interacting with facebook"
odiroot 11y ago
I would actually guess Spotify is even more popular. Pandora is AFAIR not even in Europe.
- MrBra 11y ago
  I used to know it since when it worked from Europe too... and I think I liked its selection more than I do with Spotify.
mmanfrin 11y ago
In addition to others suggesting by total time, I'd add that they are in a lot of embedded devices: cars, tvs, even receivers.
- jonknee 11y ago
  Though I don't think that would count towards "most-used mobile app". I think they mean phones.
  - asavadatti 11y ago
    Sounds like PR talk to me.
    - jonknee 11y ago
      It was literally a post by the Director of Communications.
smegel 11y ago
> but Facebook People listen to music for hours each day, even while working. They aren't using Facebook like that.
- maccard 11y ago
  I also left Spotify streaming on my work computer when I left this evening. My average Spotify usage is probably 23 hours a day.
  - jonknee 11y ago
    Your work computer's Spotify usage doesn't have anything to do with Pandora's claim about being the most used mobile app.
    - RokStdy 11y ago
      I'm not sure if you're serious or not. I think the connection that was being made is that, if you evaluate usage based purely on time, Pandora may have a ton of time in use. But, much (or at least some) of that time may be people who've left it to stream for hours after they've left.
      - jonknee 11y ago
        Leaving your work computer on doing anything has nothing to do with the usage of a mobile app. He's not leaving his phone on playing music overnight at work. Pandora isn't claiming to be the most used app in the world, they're claiming to be the most used mobile app in the world. People take their phones with them and for battery life alone are not likely to leave them playing music while they aren't listening to it.
      - kauegimenes 11y ago
        I think Pandora stops if you leave the app playing for some hours without any interaction with the app. Most streaming services do that to save bandwidth.
giarc 11y ago
What is the Apple app? Do they mean the app store app? The Apple Store App? I'm confused.
- artursapek 11y ago
  http://www.apple.com/music/ http://www.apple.com/music/
  - jonknee 11y ago
    Which can't run on most mobile devices in the world... It would be shocking if any iOS only app was on the top of most used mobile apps.
- Mahn 11y ago
  I think he meant "Apple music app", as in iTunes.
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gabriel34 11y ago
I also found that affirmation strange. Pandora isn't even global because of licensing issues.
SirensOfTitan 11y ago
This claim is really lofty. You also have to consider that Pandora has 80 MM users in a month. Facebook has 1250 MM mobile users in a month. The average Facebook user spends around 20 minutes on it a day (40 minutes for average US user). Even Pandora's claims against Spotify seem pretty suspect. While Spotify presumably has less active users (75 MM, assuming monthly), I'd bet their users spend more time using the service (given that roughly 1/3 of Spotify's actives have subscriptions to the service).

CPLX 11y ago

I read that with an implied "most used mobile [music] app" but it is a genuinely confusing sentence.

timcameronryan 11y ago

Perhaps it's usage by time? i.e. Pandora left on in the background.

thaumasiotes 11y ago
The launcher and lock screen do come to mind...

smackfu 11y ago

They are pretty up there, but no, not the top, which is Facebook as you would expect. http://qz.com/481245/these-are-the-25-most-popular-2015-mobile-apps-in-america/ http://qz.com/481245/these-are-the-25-most-popular-2015-mobi...

pointytrees 11y ago
That's a list of most popular, not most used.

tstubben 11y ago

I think they mean by time spent using the app. Pandora is used a lot in the background.

sleet 11y ago

Perhaps they define usage based on time? It seems reasonable that users would spend 1b/80m = 13 times the amount of time listening to music than they do interacting with Facebook.

beedogs 11y ago
> Perhaps they define usage based on time? That's a pretty shady thing to do.
- teej 11y ago
  You think that defining "most used" by "usage" is shady?
  - justizin 11y ago
    If I spend 3 minutes taking a picture to post on Facebook via my iPhone Camera App's integration with Facebook, where does that weigh in?
SirensOfTitan 11y ago
If you're going to use that metric, use ~1.25 B for Facebook (monthly actives on mobile). 1.25B/80m = ~16 times. The average Facebook user in the US spends about 40 minutes on FB per day (not sure of mobile vs desktop breakdown): 16*40minutes = 10 hours per day on Pandora on average. Absolutely no way.
- jbverschoor 11y ago
  I'm not sure if "checking facebook" is the same as "interacting with facebook"

odiroot 11y ago

I would actually guess Spotify is even more popular. Pandora is AFAIR not even in Europe.

MrBra 11y ago
I used to know it since when it worked from Europe too... and I think I liked its selection more than I do with Spotify.

mmanfrin 11y ago

In addition to others suggesting by total time, I'd add that they are in a lot of embedded devices: cars, tvs, even receivers.

jonknee 11y ago
Though I don't think that would count towards "most-used mobile app". I think they mean phones.
- asavadatti 11y ago
  Sounds like PR talk to me.
  - jonknee 11y ago
    It was literally a post by the Director of Communications.

smegel 11y ago

> but Facebook People listen to music for hours each day, even while working. They aren't using Facebook like that.

maccard 11y ago
I also left Spotify streaming on my work computer when I left this evening. My average Spotify usage is probably 23 hours a day.
- jonknee 11y ago
  Your work computer's Spotify usage doesn't have anything to do with Pandora's claim about being the most used mobile app.
  - RokStdy 11y ago
    I'm not sure if you're serious or not. I think the connection that was being made is that, if you evaluate usage based purely on time, Pandora may have a ton of time in use. But, much (or at least some) of that time may be people who've left it to stream for hours after they've left.
    - jonknee 11y ago
      Leaving your work computer on doing anything has nothing to do with the usage of a mobile app. He's not leaving his phone on playing music overnight at work. Pandora isn't claiming to be the most used app in the world, they're claiming to be the most used mobile app in the world. People take their phones with them and for battery life alone are not likely to leave them playing music while they aren't listening to it.
    - kauegimenes 11y ago
      I think Pandora stops if you leave the app playing for some hours without any interaction with the app. Most streaming services do that to save bandwidth.

giarc 11y ago

What is the Apple app? Do they mean the app store app? The Apple Store App? I'm confused.

artursapek 11y ago
http://www.apple.com/music/ http://www.apple.com/music/
- jonknee 11y ago
  Which can't run on most mobile devices in the world... It would be shocking if any iOS only app was on the top of most used mobile apps.
Mahn 11y ago
I think he meant "Apple music app", as in iTunes.

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gabriel34 11y ago

I also found that affirmation strange. Pandora isn't even global because of licensing issues.

SirensOfTitan 11y ago

This claim is really lofty. You also have to consider that Pandora has 80 MM users in a month. Facebook has 1250 MM mobile users in a month. The average Facebook user spends around 20 minutes on it a day (40 minutes for average US user). Even Pandora's claims against Spotify seem pretty suspect. While Spotify presumably has less active users (75 MM, assuming monthly), I'd bet their users spend more time using the service (given that roughly 1/3 of Spotify's actives have subscriptions to the service).