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Maybe they include anecdotes like this one: http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Handicapped.txt http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?pr

by Kristine1975 11y ago

Maybe they include anecdotes like this one: http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Handicapped.txt http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story... >Anyway, the story is that one day Apple executive Jean-Louis Gassee, who had recently transferred to Cupertino from Paris, had just parked his car and was walking toward the entrance of the main office at Apple when Steve buzzed by him in his silver Mercedes and pulled into the handicapped space near the front of the building. >As Steve walked brusquely past him, Jean-Louis was heard to declare, to no one in particular - "Oh, I never realized that those spaces were for the emotionally handicapped...".

coldtea 11y ago
Wasn't that Steve's building in the first place to do anything he wanted with? If he didn't take the last available such space or actually cut off some handicapped Apple employee wanting to park there, then it's more about "playing by the rules" than actually hurting anyone...
- gorena 11y ago
  No, because handicap laws are for the benefit of society. Rich men shouldn't get to skip out on them because they're rich.
  - realquick81 11y ago
    > No, because handicap laws are for the benefit of society. Only if by "benefit" you mean "detriment". Many a handicapped person are against these "laws" (opinions with guns).
  - larrys 11y ago
    Well the parent comment doesn't say how many handicap spots were open. Giving Jobs the benefit of the doubt, he may have seen a pattern where there were always multiple spots available. And the spot locations don't come down from God either. They are decided (at least in the state where I live and have worked on this subject (a work parking lot)) in an arbitrary fashion in order to meet certain requirements. It's (once again where I am) a loose specification for placement. And you can always exceed the number required. For all we know Apple could have put in more spaces than required and Steve was simply taking advantage of that knowing that nothing would happen. And that he further didn't care about any fine he received assuming the Police even had normal access to that part of the parking lot when they were on patrol. Edit: Further to my point it's easy to assume "arrogant big shot rich guy" just hearing a story like this.
    - setpatchaddress 11y ago
      No. It's not legal to park in handicapped spaces in California unless you're handicapped. California doesn't make an exception for rich assholes. SJ had many admirable qualities. This was not one of them.
      - larrys 11y ago
        Is there anything in particular that makes handicap laws any different than, say, speeding or breaking any other law that won't land you in jail? People break speeding laws every day because a) they can and b) they feel they have a reason to and c) they don't feel the speed limit is just. Have you noticed how many "not really handicapped" people use handicap spaces after getting a note from their Doctor? You seem to be indicating that there is something rare and special about handicapped spaces and that the entire idea of allocating them is fair to begin with. You know that's not the case, right? Also why the need to call Jobs "a rich asshole"?
- jsprogrammer 11y ago
  It wasn't Steve's building. It was Apple's, or more likely Apple was leasing someone else's building. Also, disabled parking spaces are regulated by local, state, and federal agencies; not Steve Jobs' whims.
  - coldtea 11y ago
    >It wasn't Steve's building. It was Apple's, or more likely Apple was leasing someone else's building. Not that different, since he created Apple and Apple leased that building. I'm more annoyed by public companies throwing out their original founders than by this. >Also, disabled parking spaces are regulated by local, state, and federal agencies; not Steve Jobs' whims. Even ones belonging to a company? Can't they arrange their parking however they like?
    - hdctambien 11y ago
      Yes, even parking spaces belonging to a company. Americans with Disabilities Act: https://adata.org/learn-about-ada https://adata.org/learn-about-ada
    - scott_karana 11y ago
      > I'm more annoyed by public companies throwing out their original founders than by this. Apple's board had fairly decent reasons to through Jobs out. Look at his track record at the time. It was good for both parties.
    - rhino369 11y ago
      If founders want to control their company they shouldn't sell their equity. It's 100% in their control.
      - staunch 11y ago
        Not if they sell equity!
- mmmBacon 11y ago
  My neighbor worked for Apple's real estate (facilities?) organization during this time. His only Steve Jobs story is that one day Steve came into the real-estate office extremely angry. Apparently SJ had received a parking ticket for parking in the handicapped space. He barreled into the office and slammed a stack of tickets on the desk and screamed at them that they needed to fix these tickets and stormed out.
  - 6stringmerc 11y ago
    That makes a pretty interesting personality triumverate of 1. Auto laws are for little people, 2. Manufacturing jobs are for sweat shops, and 3. Collusion is okay when I do it. All the makings of hubris.
    - coldtea 11y ago
      >2. Manufacturing jobs are for sweat shops You mean like any other tech company in the US and worldwide? Because this Taiwanese company called Foxconn builds stuff for nearly all of them, and in the same facilities in China, Taiwan and elsewhere...
      - 6stringmerc 11y ago
        Foxconn doesn't build Moog hardware, and that's a more exclusive tech company than most.
- TheCoelacanth 11y ago
  If it was his building, he should just put up a "Reserved for Steve Jobs" sign in one of the normal parking spots, not take one of the spots that are legally required to be reserved for handicapped people.

coldtea 11y ago

Wasn't that Steve's building in the first place to do anything he wanted with? If he didn't take the last available such space or actually cut off some handicapped Apple employee wanting to park there, then it's more about "playing by the rules" than actually hurting anyone...

gorena 11y ago
No, because handicap laws are for the benefit of society. Rich men shouldn't get to skip out on them because they're rich.
- realquick81 11y ago
  > No, because handicap laws are for the benefit of society. Only if by "benefit" you mean "detriment". Many a handicapped person are against these "laws" (opinions with guns).
- larrys 11y ago
  Well the parent comment doesn't say how many handicap spots were open. Giving Jobs the benefit of the doubt, he may have seen a pattern where there were always multiple spots available. And the spot locations don't come down from God either. They are decided (at least in the state where I live and have worked on this subject (a work parking lot)) in an arbitrary fashion in order to meet certain requirements. It's (once again where I am) a loose specification for placement. And you can always exceed the number required. For all we know Apple could have put in more spaces than required and Steve was simply taking advantage of that knowing that nothing would happen. And that he further didn't care about any fine he received assuming the Police even had normal access to that part of the parking lot when they were on patrol. Edit: Further to my point it's easy to assume "arrogant big shot rich guy" just hearing a story like this.
  - setpatchaddress 11y ago
    No. It's not legal to park in handicapped spaces in California unless you're handicapped. California doesn't make an exception for rich assholes. SJ had many admirable qualities. This was not one of them.
    - larrys 11y ago
      Is there anything in particular that makes handicap laws any different than, say, speeding or breaking any other law that won't land you in jail? People break speeding laws every day because a) they can and b) they feel they have a reason to and c) they don't feel the speed limit is just. Have you noticed how many "not really handicapped" people use handicap spaces after getting a note from their Doctor? You seem to be indicating that there is something rare and special about handicapped spaces and that the entire idea of allocating them is fair to begin with. You know that's not the case, right? Also why the need to call Jobs "a rich asshole"?
jsprogrammer 11y ago
It wasn't Steve's building. It was Apple's, or more likely Apple was leasing someone else's building. Also, disabled parking spaces are regulated by local, state, and federal agencies; not Steve Jobs' whims.
- coldtea 11y ago
  >It wasn't Steve's building. It was Apple's, or more likely Apple was leasing someone else's building. Not that different, since he created Apple and Apple leased that building. I'm more annoyed by public companies throwing out their original founders than by this. >Also, disabled parking spaces are regulated by local, state, and federal agencies; not Steve Jobs' whims. Even ones belonging to a company? Can't they arrange their parking however they like?
  - hdctambien 11y ago
    Yes, even parking spaces belonging to a company. Americans with Disabilities Act: https://adata.org/learn-about-ada https://adata.org/learn-about-ada
  - scott_karana 11y ago
    > I'm more annoyed by public companies throwing out their original founders than by this. Apple's board had fairly decent reasons to through Jobs out. Look at his track record at the time. It was good for both parties.
  - rhino369 11y ago
    If founders want to control their company they shouldn't sell their equity. It's 100% in their control.
    - staunch 11y ago
      Not if they sell equity!
mmmBacon 11y ago
My neighbor worked for Apple's real estate (facilities?) organization during this time. His only Steve Jobs story is that one day Steve came into the real-estate office extremely angry. Apparently SJ had received a parking ticket for parking in the handicapped space. He barreled into the office and slammed a stack of tickets on the desk and screamed at them that they needed to fix these tickets and stormed out.
- 6stringmerc 11y ago
  That makes a pretty interesting personality triumverate of 1. Auto laws are for little people, 2. Manufacturing jobs are for sweat shops, and 3. Collusion is okay when I do it. All the makings of hubris.
  - coldtea 11y ago
    >2. Manufacturing jobs are for sweat shops You mean like any other tech company in the US and worldwide? Because this Taiwanese company called Foxconn builds stuff for nearly all of them, and in the same facilities in China, Taiwan and elsewhere...
    - 6stringmerc 11y ago
      Foxconn doesn't build Moog hardware, and that's a more exclusive tech company than most.
TheCoelacanth 11y ago
If it was his building, he should just put up a "Reserved for Steve Jobs" sign in one of the normal parking spots, not take one of the spots that are legally required to be reserved for handicapped people.