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But thats not terrorism you might as well say that car drivers are terrorists. And selectively ignoring a data point to make your figures look they way you wa

But thats not terrorism you might as well say that car drivers are terrorists. And selectively ignoring a data point to make your figures look they way you want is not exactly ethical is it.

thex10 11y ago
Actually I believe ignoring outliers is sound practice, as far as statistical analysis goes.
quesera 11y ago
"terrorism" doesn't mean much any more. Violence targeted against groups with different origins or beliefs for the purpose of sowing unrest and causing fear in others? They did eliminate the Sandy Hook guy and others due to broad antisocial attitudes without specific targets. So they did make an effort of sorts...but I'm sure they have an agenda to promulgate, I just haven't bothered to read what it might be.
- soylentcola 11y ago
  I think if there's any agenda, it's to look for any trends in ideological terrorism in the US. Honestly, I think one thing the data shows that wasn't mentioned is that there's relatively little ideologically motivated terrorism in the US overall (compared to the prominent place terrorism holds in the national conversation). This isn't to belittle the death of 74 people in terrorist attacks but once you get past the morbidity of death tolls and averages, 74 victims over 14 years (5 or so per year avg) strikes me as a fairly low number when compared to the typical weight that such attacks are given in policy discussions.
GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago
I picked three random entries from that table: http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/terror-plot.html?id=1682 http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/terror-plot.ht... http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/terror-plot.html?id=1680 http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/terror-plot.ht... http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/terror-plot.html?id=560848931 http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/terror-plot.ht... and it's hard to see how that's not terrorism except for the fact it's white people doing it.
sjg007 11y ago
anti-minority crazy people with guns who kill people are terrorists.

But thats not terrorism you might as well say that car drivers are terrorists. And selectively ignoring a data point to make your figures look they way you want is not exactly ethical is it.

thex10 11y ago

Actually I believe ignoring outliers is sound practice, as far as statistical analysis goes.

quesera 11y ago

"terrorism" doesn't mean much any more. Violence targeted against groups with different origins or beliefs for the purpose of sowing unrest and causing fear in others? They did eliminate the Sandy Hook guy and others due to broad antisocial attitudes without specific targets. So they did make an effort of sorts...but I'm sure they have an agenda to promulgate, I just haven't bothered to read what it might be.

soylentcola 11y ago
I think if there's any agenda, it's to look for any trends in ideological terrorism in the US. Honestly, I think one thing the data shows that wasn't mentioned is that there's relatively little ideologically motivated terrorism in the US overall (compared to the prominent place terrorism holds in the national conversation). This isn't to belittle the death of 74 people in terrorist attacks but once you get past the morbidity of death tolls and averages, 74 victims over 14 years (5 or so per year avg) strikes me as a fairly low number when compared to the typical weight that such attacks are given in policy discussions.

GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago

I picked three random entries from that table: http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/terror-plot.html?id=1682 http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/terror-plot.ht... http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/terror-plot.html?id=1680 http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/terror-plot.ht... http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/terror-plot.html?id=560848931 http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/terror-plot.ht... and it's hard to see how that's not terrorism except for the fact it's white people doing it.

sjg007 11y ago

anti-minority crazy people with guns who kill people are terrorists.