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It's not as much legalese but trying to hide a wolf in sheep clothing. They put other legislations around (I did not inspect them, so can't comment) and among
by takeda 11y ago
It's not as much legalese but trying to hide a wolf in sheep clothing.
They put other legislations around (I did not inspect them, so can't comment) and among them (in the center so person skimming it might miss it) they put: "Cyber Threat Information Sharing Legislation". They don't mention which bills they are referring to and they made sure that acronym doesn't match CISPA. If you search it you will find that there's no legislation with that name, and the only results you get are CISPA.
Why those companies want CISPA? Because it removes all liability from them when they share the data without a warrant. Basically we no longer will be able to sue them for violating our privacy.
- pdkl95 11y ago> Because it removes all liability from them when they share the data without a warrant. Aka, a Letter of Marque[1]. Some companies really want to be the privateers of the surveillance-industrial complex. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_marque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_marque
- mozumder 11y ago> Why those companies want CISPA? Because it removes all liability from them when they share the data without a warrant. Basically we no longer will be able to sue them for violating our privacy. Nothing in CISPA allows them to violate their EULA. If they had EULAs that violated your privacy in the first place, then that's a problem between you and the company, independent of CISPA.
- kuschku 11y agoOr, for EU people, it’s a problem between the company and your government, and you can force the company to change the EULA, which in turn means they have to change their policies or lose in court, like Facebook.
- takeda 11y agoEULA is something that is imposed by the company, it is totally optional but companies use it to restrict you what you can do with their product or service. They could mention that they would send data about you, or they could just say they have to follow US laws.
- takeda 11y agoThis is irrelevant. EULA is between company and the user it is also imposed by the company. What they write might not necessarily be enforceable.
- mozumder 11y agoGreat. Then don't agree to those EULAs, and don't use their products/services. Problem solved. And we didn't even involve CISPA!
- takeda 11y agoOnce that would become a law they no longer even have to mention it in the EULA, because it takes precedence. In addition to that all companies would be doing it so it's not like you can "vote with your wallet". So I'm still not following why EULA has to do with anything in this context.