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While I agree with the opinion, what makes pg the person to quote here? There should be a little filter before we all just latch on to what pg says. He has gr

by olympus 11y ago

While I agree with the opinion, what makes pg the person to quote here? There should be a little filter before we all just latch on to what pg says. He has great experience with technology and startups but how does that make it something for us to care about? Is he involved in this case at all or an expert on human rights issues?

lemiffe 11y ago
He's just giving his opinion, which other readers thought was something worthy of sharing... perfectly valid.
javajosh 11y ago
It is the celebrity opinion fallacy, but its culturally pervasive and harmless when you strongly agree. Actually he's better than Jolie or Damon because his celebrity is from intelligence and good judgment.
- nsgi 11y ago
  Matt Damon wrote the script for Good Will Hunting, so it's reasonable to say his fame is based on intelligence, to some extent at least.
scott_karana 11y ago
He wrote an article about it yesterday. I assume OP was interested, thus the repost this tweet. http://pg.posthaven.com/the-case-of-richard-glossip http://pg.posthaven.com/the-case-of-richard-glossip https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10293793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10293793
- MichaelGG 11y ago
  WTF? "No evidence" connecting him to the crime? He admitted to covering up the murder! There's no evidence that he "masterminded" the crime, but there's still his own admission linking him to the murder. It seems he's facing the death penalty due to ordering the murder, and that part shouldn't stick because of one person's testimony. But throwing that part out, he wouldn't have been found innocent by anyone.
drzaiusapelord 11y ago
Yeah, its scary that PG is morphing into a liberal social media celebrity. Especially with a contextless outraged tone like this. I never understood this kind of easy and emotionally gratifying slacktivism. Considering his wealth and influence, if he cared so much about DP issues, why doesn't he fund or start a think tank or policy lobbyist organization to fight it? Yelling at governors seems incredibly short-sighted and knee-jerk to me. I don't think this helps matters politically, it just builds echo chambers and extremism. I don't know any liberals, for example, who would remotely consider any conservative view, or vice-versa. There's a real "internet identity poltics" aspect going on here we just take on face value and don't criticize. Even criticizing the default liberal position on the sites like HN, reddit, etc is just an invitation to downvote hell, no wonder we can't have any kind of interesting discourse on these forums. The majority group can just downvote you into censorship. It sad that if you're into tech sites you have to tolerate and unquestionably deal with angry liberal screeds all the time and never be able to hear a rounded commentary. We're not building common ground with our political opposites, we're not enlightening anyone, etc. We're just yelling and being angry. What exactly do we expect to happen here? Nothing has happened since John Edwards had complained about the "Two Americas" back in 2004. If anything, things have somehow gotten worse since. I suspect low information twitter, reddit, tumblr, facebook, etc protests are a contributing factor. This is especially worrying as we see the left consistantly lose elections in congress, the senate, the state legislature, and the state governor's offices. As a left-leaning moderate, this is not good and the left and far left are failing to appeal to voters, which means conservatives will continue to win office and implement conservative policies.
- vezzy-fnord 11y ago
  You're setting an example of your own grievance.
- bshimmin 11y ago
  What a strange comment. Isn't Paul allowed to be a guy posting stuff that he cares about on Twitter, just like the rest of us? Does his relative fame (in some circles) have any real bearing on it?

by olympus 11y ago

lemiffe 11y ago

He's just giving his opinion, which other readers thought was something worthy of sharing... perfectly valid.

javajosh 11y ago

It is the celebrity opinion fallacy, but its culturally pervasive and harmless when you strongly agree. Actually he's better than Jolie or Damon because his celebrity is from intelligence and good judgment.

nsgi 11y ago
Matt Damon wrote the script for Good Will Hunting, so it's reasonable to say his fame is based on intelligence, to some extent at least.

scott_karana 11y ago

He wrote an article about it yesterday. I assume OP was interested, thus the repost this tweet. http://pg.posthaven.com/the-case-of-richard-glossip http://pg.posthaven.com/the-case-of-richard-glossip https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10293793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10293793

MichaelGG 11y ago
WTF? "No evidence" connecting him to the crime? He admitted to covering up the murder! There's no evidence that he "masterminded" the crime, but there's still his own admission linking him to the murder. It seems he's facing the death penalty due to ordering the murder, and that part shouldn't stick because of one person's testimony. But throwing that part out, he wouldn't have been found innocent by anyone.

drzaiusapelord 11y ago

Yeah, its scary that PG is morphing into a liberal social media celebrity. Especially with a contextless outraged tone like this. I never understood this kind of easy and emotionally gratifying slacktivism. Considering his wealth and influence, if he cared so much about DP issues, why doesn't he fund or start a think tank or policy lobbyist organization to fight it? Yelling at governors seems incredibly short-sighted and knee-jerk to me. I don't think this helps matters politically, it just builds echo chambers and extremism. I don't know any liberals, for example, who would remotely consider any conservative view, or vice-versa. There's a real "internet identity poltics" aspect going on here we just take on face value and don't criticize. Even criticizing the default liberal position on the sites like HN, reddit, etc is just an invitation to downvote hell, no wonder we can't have any kind of interesting discourse on these forums. The majority group can just downvote you into censorship. It sad that if you're into tech sites you have to tolerate and unquestionably deal with angry liberal screeds all the time and never be able to hear a rounded commentary. We're not building common ground with our political opposites, we're not enlightening anyone, etc. We're just yelling and being angry. What exactly do we expect to happen here? Nothing has happened since John Edwards had complained about the "Two Americas" back in 2004. If anything, things have somehow gotten worse since. I suspect low information twitter, reddit, tumblr, facebook, etc protests are a contributing factor. This is especially worrying as we see the left consistantly lose elections in congress, the senate, the state legislature, and the state governor's offices. As a left-leaning moderate, this is not good and the left and far left are failing to appeal to voters, which means conservatives will continue to win office and implement conservative policies.

vezzy-fnord 11y ago
You're setting an example of your own grievance.
bshimmin 11y ago
What a strange comment. Isn't Paul allowed to be a guy posting stuff that he cares about on Twitter, just like the rest of us? Does his relative fame (in some circles) have any real bearing on it?