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> Just like Zopfli, the new algorithm is named after Swiss bakery products. Brötli means ‘small bread’ in Swiss German. Makes sense.
by estefan 11y ago
> Just like Zopfli, the new algorithm is named after Swiss bakery products. Brötli means ‘small bread’ in Swiss German.
Makes sense.
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y agoDisappointing they aren't dissolving the umlaut and instead stripping it. 'Broetil' would be equivalent to 'Brötil', yet they remove it (and thus change the sound) to create 'Brotil'.
- m_mueller 11y agoFirst I thought you made a typo, but then it was consistent: Swiss German it is Brötli.
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y agoOops, yes, L I not I L. I misread. My bad!
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y agoMuphry's Law strikes again.
- agumonkey 11y agoKeeping that long human linguistic tradition of information loss. Pretty on point for a compression scheme.
- scrollaway 11y agoBrilliant. I love it. I'll pretend they did that on purpose :)
- usefulcat 11y agoWell, maybe not for lossless compression..
- agumonkey 11y agoThat was the joke.
- StavrosK 11y agoThey change the sound in transliterating it anyway. Would you prefer bro-tli or bro-ee-tli?
- nrr 11y agoEr, no, the transliteration of "ö" to "oe" does not change the sound. This is considered a feature of the orthography of German, and you see this kind of thing in, e.g., crossword puzzles.
- StavrosK 11y agoI meant transliteration to English. No English speaker will pronounce the o with the umlaut, so you have to pick how you want English speakers to pronounce your word from the two alternatives above. Bro-li sounds much better to me than bro-ee-li.
- TillE 11y agoEnglish speakers don't pronounce "oe" as a diphthong either.
- _delirium 11y agoSometimes they do, sometimes they don't. It doesn't really have any consistent English pronunciation, since it appears in a bunch of different morphological contexts, and in loanwords from at least five or six different languages. Some examples: phoenix (1 syllable, 'ee'), Zoe (2 syllables, 'oh-ee'), Joe (1 syllable, 'oh'), Joel (either 1 or 2 syllables, depending on schwa insertion), canoe (1 syllable, 'oo'), Dostoevsky (2 syllables, 'oh-eh' or 'oh-yeh'), coed (2 syllables, 'oh-eh'), etc. If I saw something like Broetli and didn't immediately recognize the Germanic origin, I could see myself easily misanalyzing it as Bro-etli and pronouncing it that way.
- anentropic 11y agoExcept... 'oe' at the end of words is rare in English, but when we have it we pronounce it like 'o' eg: hoe sloe (both rhyme with 'bro') to get a 'bro-ee' effect you'd need a 'oey' or some other spelling
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- usrusr 11y agoThis way, very much umlaut-capable, but not at all swiss-capable Germans won't be tempted to pronounce it in a terribly wrong and insulting imitation of some swiss dialect. Serious international tensions will be avoided by clearly separating the name from the language it is derived from. If your company motto was "don't be evil", you surely would not want your compression algorithms to cause naval standoffs on Lake Constance! Also, simply dropping those dots where they actually belong is refreshingly post-metal-umlaut.
- IshKebab 11y agoSurely it's more like "breadlet"?
- anentropic 11y ago...and everyone knows breadlet compression > wavelet :)
- curun1r 11y agoIt's a sensible name, considering the previous name, but there's still a part of me that's sad that they missed the opportunity to name it Nucleus.