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What actually incentivizes a customer to take their car to a shop to get this fixed though? It's not causing harm to individual car owners, and it's not like t

What actually incentivizes a customer to take their car to a shop to get this fixed though? It's not causing harm to individual car owners, and it's not like they can get collections agencies to sieze them. Seems like they're going to have trouble getting compliance here...

joshrotenberg 11y ago
I've got a 2013 Golf TDI and was thinking about this as well. If it isn't a safety related recall, I'm not sure how you get people to comply aside from some other action related to, say, their next years registration (i.e. if your VIN doesn't have this fix applied, you can't reregister your car). Not sure if that's a thing, though. I'd personally plan to take my car in "real soon now" to get the fix.
- mjt0229 11y ago
  I have a 2014 Jetta TDI, and the thing I'm wondering is what the cost of the fix will be - not to me in dollars, since it would be covered by the recall - but rather, will this affect my fuel economy or performance in some other way? I'm just trying to figure out why they don't have the cars running in this lower-emissions mode all the time.
  - rozap 11y ago
    The performance and/or lifetime of the engine will likely be compromised to meet the standards.
- dougb 11y ago
  I wonder how you car will drive after the "fix." I suspect you won't be very happy with it.
  - joshrotenberg 11y ago
    Yup, quite possibly thinking about bailing on the car sooner rather than later. I have no idea if this kind of thing significantly affects resale value, but I'm not sure I want to wait around to find out.
    - ams6110 11y ago
      There will be aftermarket kits to remove the controls. Just like there are now for all diesel engines.
  - jonknee 11y ago
    That seems like a big liability for them... I'm sure some enterprising lawyers are already plotting a class action. Consumer buys car after test drive and loves performance, but it turns out performance was a lie. They may have to do a buy back.
  - plonh 11y ago
    The vast majority of consumers won't notice. Some will be upset, because They bought the car for the specs on paper just to feel cool. Similar to how the fanboi segment of consumers by video cards and computers and stereo equipment.
thrownaway2424 11y ago
In California CARB can order all of these cars to be inspected and if they aren't, the DMV won't renew the registrations.
- joshrotenberg 11y ago
  OK, didn't know if that was something that was done or not (see my response below). I'm in CA, just had to renew my registration and get my car smogged a couple months ago (its a 2013). It passed, of course.
zardo 11y ago
Epa can potentially require VW offer an incentive to owners.

joshrotenberg 11y ago

I've got a 2013 Golf TDI and was thinking about this as well. If it isn't a safety related recall, I'm not sure how you get people to comply aside from some other action related to, say, their next years registration (i.e. if your VIN doesn't have this fix applied, you can't reregister your car). Not sure if that's a thing, though. I'd personally plan to take my car in "real soon now" to get the fix.

mjt0229 11y ago
I have a 2014 Jetta TDI, and the thing I'm wondering is what the cost of the fix will be - not to me in dollars, since it would be covered by the recall - but rather, will this affect my fuel economy or performance in some other way? I'm just trying to figure out why they don't have the cars running in this lower-emissions mode all the time.
- rozap 11y ago
  The performance and/or lifetime of the engine will likely be compromised to meet the standards.
dougb 11y ago
I wonder how you car will drive after the "fix." I suspect you won't be very happy with it.
- joshrotenberg 11y ago
  Yup, quite possibly thinking about bailing on the car sooner rather than later. I have no idea if this kind of thing significantly affects resale value, but I'm not sure I want to wait around to find out.
  - ams6110 11y ago
    There will be aftermarket kits to remove the controls. Just like there are now for all diesel engines.
- jonknee 11y ago
  That seems like a big liability for them... I'm sure some enterprising lawyers are already plotting a class action. Consumer buys car after test drive and loves performance, but it turns out performance was a lie. They may have to do a buy back.
- plonh 11y ago
  The vast majority of consumers won't notice. Some will be upset, because They bought the car for the specs on paper just to feel cool. Similar to how the fanboi segment of consumers by video cards and computers and stereo equipment.

thrownaway2424 11y ago

In California CARB can order all of these cars to be inspected and if they aren't, the DMV won't renew the registrations.

joshrotenberg 11y ago
OK, didn't know if that was something that was done or not (see my response below). I'm in CA, just had to renew my registration and get my car smogged a couple months ago (its a 2013). It passed, of course.

zardo 11y ago

Epa can potentially require VW offer an incentive to owners.