> I'm risking getting downvoted to oblivion here, but as an EU citizen I strongly believe that the core reason we have this crisis in the first place (as oppose

> I'm risking getting downvoted to oblivion here, but as an EU citizen I strongly believe that the core reason we have this crisis in the first place (as opposed to something controlled) is nonexistent border protection from southern countries like Italy, Greece. Never have I heard of them employing border patrols to veer off illegal boats. Did you ever look for any kind of information on the matter, or you just saw a commentary of some tv-persona who spends for breakfast a month's worth salary? Because if you did, you would have find very compelling answers. Why don't you come here and try to fend off 4.5 million people. What exactly would you have us do, shoot them on spot? Even to jail requires money and we're busy paying taxes (~70% of income is taxes in Greece right now). Greece and Italy are dealing with immigration waves for at least 15 years. You just had a GLANCE and went berserk before they even reached your country's borders. Did you give a sht until now, or you woke up today saw the TV news and got interested? Why don't to take a look at the news. See how Germany and Nordic countries dealt with Greek/Italian immigration problems all these years... See if you can spot some patterns there. > We call those [economic] immigrants and have rules. Now its wild west. And in the news reports I usually see people toying with iPhone 5/6 and wearing [designer] jeans/jackets. I'll will assume - given your views it's far-fetched, I know* - that you're not retarded. If you see iPhones en masse in immigrant pictures than you're looking at the wrong pictures. Let me help you[1]. > I am all for growing a pair and actually declaring what is a war zone. Working with UN/NATO to establish a peace there. Where? Do you think the EU (well Germany and the UK, the others don't count anyway) has a say in US vs Russian war? Because that's what this is all about. The way Germany treats Greece, is the exact way the US treats Germany. Less stunts, but the baseline is exactly the same, humiliations one after another (Snowden scandal, "fuck the EU" by Nuland and so forth). So, in the real world, there's little if anything the EU can do about this, except form picking up the pieces. I said this before, after the German-Greek showdown the EU is a finished project. It is a failure at so many levels that it's scary. I fear that first will come the break-up and then probably some sort of war... And it will be worse than the other two. [1] https://www.google.gr/search?q=migrant+flow+2015&espv=2&biw=1152&bih=587&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMIw-WWlPv6xwIVAlcaCh0sbgSU#tbm=isch&q=migrant+crisis+in+europe+2015 https://www.google.gr/search?q=migrant+flow+2015&espv=2&biw=...