10 ms·
OS X El Capitan GM Candidate available
- siquick 11y agoAnyone know if the Heroku Toolbelt issues still exist?
- dickeytk 11y agothe toolbelt should be working under el capitan
- mrmondo 11y ago*Edit: Fixed my issue trying to get the latest download, I had to clear the software update catalogue as so: `sudo softwareupdate –clear-catalog` Still waiting for Apple to approve my new developer account, A direct link to the download would be appreciated. I have been running the developer and public beta's since they were released, right from beta 1 I found it more stable and 'faster' than Yosemite which my team has had endless problems with beach balls, crashes etc... We were thinking that Apple had given up on OS-X and were almost entirely focusing on iOS development but with our experiences running and developing on El Capitan I truly believe we were wrong - it reminds me of how fast and reliable OS-X 3-4 years ago much to my (our) relief.
- dickeytk 11y agothat's not how it works, it's delivered via the app store
- wlesieutre 11y agoApp Store > Purchases tab > OS X El Capitan GM Candidate > Download
- mrmondo 11y agoAs I said: "Still waiting for Apple to approve my new developer account, A direct link to the download would be appreciated." Generally once a GM has been released and a download is available the .dmg installer is available if not from Apple's website, from application download or update cache after installing it from the app store.
- wlesieutre 11y agoOS X beta doesn't require a developer account, you can enroll in the Apple Beta Software Program with any Apple ID. I don't have a developer account and got beta access very quickly. https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/welcome https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/welcome
- mrmondo 11y agoHey thanks for the link, I didn't realise it was available for the Public as well as the Developer betas, I managed to get it to download by clearing the software update catalog as so: `sudo softwareupdate –clear-catalog`
- wlesieutre 11y agoYou're welcome! iOS 9 beta is devs only, so I'm stuck waiting for that one. El Cap has been very stable for me though!
- zuck9 11y agoiOS 9 has a public beta too, it's different from the dev betas though and has no GM.
- wlesieutre 11y agoJust looked again and found it a few minutes ago! Beta is installing. Along with Xcode 7, which you would think would be on the Apple Beta Software Program page, but isn't.
- klausa 11y agoXcode betas are now made publicly available. I don't think you even need an Apple ID anymore.
- 11y ago
- interpol_p 11y agoDoes it appear as an App Store update to anyone running the latest dev build? I redeemed my copy but it indicated I should update from the Updates page rather than downloading the full package, however the updates page is empty.
- wlesieutre 11y agoIt's listed as "OS X El Capitan GM Candidate" under the Purchases tab. Full 6 GB download like the final release will be for users coming from Yosemite, rather than an incremental update on top of the beta. Unless I'm missing something, anyway.
- christopheraden 11y agoCan anyone comment if the GM fixes the battery problems Beta 1 had? I was on the first beta awhile back, and my 2012 rMBP got about an hour battery life (I usually get closer to ~3-4) and was always hot to the touch. The same thing happened to me with Mavericks, so I chalked it up to Apple not optimizing the early betas for battery life.
- roflchoppa 11y agoI'm on beta 5, on a 2009 macbook 15 in, I'm getting great battery life, but i feel like my lap is on fire. ya ya ya i know its not good for the boys down here but i had no choice!
- mrmondo 11y agoI'm on DP 8 on a 2015 rMP, Sitting reading documents and playing music in iTunes without doing too much I get around 11 hours battery life, with moderate use of git, sublime text 3 and some Firefox (Nightly) I get between 5-7 hours depending on how much I use Firefox which is the main battery killer.
- christopheraden 11y agoExcellent! I guess now is the time for me to finally make the move over to El Capitan, since your usage seems pretty similar to mine. Thanks!
- Watabou 11y agoThere are lots of diagnostic reports that are run in beta versions. On the latest beta of 10.11, I easily get 8-9 hours battery life with brightness set to the middle with Safari, iTerm, Mail and iTunes running. Are you using Chrome/flash at all?
- coldtea 11y ago>Can anyone comment if the GM fixes the battery problems Beta 1 had? I was on the first beta awhile back, and my 2012 rMBP got about an hour battery life (I usually get closer to ~3-4) and was always hot to the touch. Those are usually no battery or power management related problems, but "rogue program eating too much CPU" problems. Usually it's Spotlight, but a look in Activity Monitor would have shown the culprit.
- ComputerGuru 11y agoTo anyone trying to install the GM while running a OS X dev build: https://neosmart.net/blog/2015/upgrade-to-os-x-el-capitan-gm-from-a-dev-seed/ https://neosmart.net/blog/2015/upgrade-to-os-x-el-capitan-gm... You'll need the whole 6 GiB download, there's (currently) no delta upgrade available. It also doesn't seem there will be, based off of the note from Apple (see link).
- roflchoppa 11y agoya i just went from 5-> GM, which worked out for me because stupid 6 update always failed to install.
- matthew-wegner 11y agoAs an FYI, Apple typically releases multiple GM candidates before a final OS X release. (I think it was three each for Yosemite and Mavericks, although it's surprisingly hard to find a comprehensive list of builds).
- jeffcox 11y agoIf memory serves GMs are normally a one and done thing. It may be buggy and inadvisable (wait for 10.x.1), but the GM normally ships more or less unchanged.
- zippergz 11y agoYeah, there are often several RCs, but usually only one GM. I do vaguely remember some Apple OS release in the past, in which they released a GM and then had to do a second one, but I can't recall the details (even if it was iOS or MacOS).
- linksbro 11y agoGMs have gone up to at most 3, I believe. http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/09/third-yosemite-golden-master-candidate/ http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/09/third-yosemite-golden-ma...
- derefr 11y agoGM (Golden Master) = RTM (Release To Manufacturing) = the point where it becomes a bit of a hassle to do a recall because you've started putting copies of your OS in boxes somehow (whether pressed on a disc, or flashed to new machines' SSDs, or whatever.) If Apple does a second GM on a product, they're likely "rewinding" their pipeline, reopening sealed boxes to re-image computers. Not something they will do if they can at all help it!
- justizin 11y agoThey're calling this a "GM Candidate" https://www.dropbox.com/s/a2ge8vhirmine5o/Screenshot%202015-09-09%2022.16.22.png?dl=0 Could be an evolution of lingo, or just that they're saying GM are always a candidate but oh god please almost always the same as RTM.
- salimmadjd 11y agoJust upgraded. Too early to say, but so far everything works except Little Snitch.
- mrmondo 11y agoInstall the nightly build, it works :)
- akerl_ 11y agoDoes it work with System Integrity IForgetTheName turned on? I've been trying to keep tabs on what does/doesn't break w/ that addition (totalspaces/totalfinder appear to be having a rough time, for instance), trying to hunt the Little Snitch forums now
- mrmondo 11y agoYes, it works on stock El Cap
- salimmadjd 11y agoThanks! Installing Nightly Build 3.6 fixed it (it's El Capitan compatible)
- rwojo 11y agoAnyone find a secret command line 'default' setting to change how Mission Control / Spaces works so it shows the previews without having to go to the top of the screen?
- Watabou 11y agoI hate this change too, but I believe this was done to improve the frame rates. 10.11 finally has smooth Mission control animations on a retina display, even when a lot of apps are up and running, which is great. I don't see any other reason why they would hide this from showing up by default.
- dzhiurgis 11y agoIf you use you display in some Scaled mode it could be the culprit of low framerate as it then runs at something like 3k by 2k resolution which is then downscaled to your selection.
- rwojo 11y agoI think the improvements are more around Metal and such. It see improvements everywhere not just Mission Control, especially when hooked up to my 4K monitor.
- ryenus 11y ago+1, also annoyed by this change/regression.
- josho 11y agoWhat gets me is the useless numeric desktop naming. I'm shocked that we still can't rename a desktop, eg. TaskXDesktop instead of Desktop 4.
- pervycreeper 11y agoUser focused question: will this seamlessly upgrade to the release stream when installed?
- Watabou 11y agoYes. Also, more often than not, OS X GM is the version that's released to the public. Even if they do update GM versions, it's still a delta update between the final GM and the subsequent release (10.11.1 in this case)
- e40 11y agoI believe in the past, it was not the case. I remember once I downloaded the GM and a day later there was a new one. I went to software update and there were no pending changes. I had to wipe/start over.
- plorkyeran 11y agoWith the 10.9 first GM you couldn't update to the second GM, but updating to 10.9.1 worked fine.
- pervycreeper 11y agoHow can you be certain that the result was identical?
- coldtea 11y agoBecause science. Also deltas.
- EugeneOZ 11y agoIt's because "new one" wasn't actually new, only difference was in naming.
- comex 11y agoJust a reminder: installing this will enable System Integrity Protection (aka rootless, prevents even root from modifying system files), but it can be disabled by rebooting into recovery mode and selecting Utilities -> Security Configuration. Edit: Actually, some webpage says that the method was changed in a later beta. Let me actually do the update and see how it works now...
- junkblocker 11y agoWhat's the definition of system files in this context? I run ssh on alternate port by editing /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/ssh.plist . Will that not be editable anymore or is this applicable to executables only?
- achivetta 11y agoThat won't be editable anymore. But you could disable SIP from recovery mode, make the change, then re-enable it.
- kfriede 11y ago"csrutil disable" from within a terminal in recovery mode will do it
- clessg 11y agoHere's what you have to do now: http://i.imgur.com/L1pCBxG.png http://i.imgur.com/L1pCBxG.png and then http://i.imgur.com/UKMhB1n.png http://i.imgur.com/UKMhB1n.png http://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalspaces2-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3828 http://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalspaces2-status-under-os-...
- super_mario 11y agoAnd that bash 3.2 is one of the reasons I want to turn off rootless so I can install modern bash 4.3 in /bin/bash, so that scripts that have #/bin/bash continue to work unmodified. Apple will most likely never update their bash to GPL 3.0 bash 4 or later.
- techaddict009 11y agoGM Candidate, what does it mean? Is this a new beta version or final?
- smcl 11y agoGold Master, I think
- Someone 11y agoGolden master candidate, which means that, barring the discovery of a horrendous bug, this will be what ships. So, known bugs, however impactful, will not stop the release. Shipping a second or third GM candidate is not unheard of. See for example http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/09/third-yosemite-golden-master-candidate/ http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/09/third-yosemite-golden-ma...
- VikenTommy 11y agoWhat's the difference between OS X El Capitan Beta and Candidate? Do we get other perks that other won't when the final Version is out?
- gayprogrammer 11y agoWhat are you talking about? There have never been perks to downloading betas.
- DarkTree 11y agoThe perk of a beta is getting to try it first. The purpose of a beta is for Apple to get test-users that are willing to provide feedback that they can use to perfect the official release of the final version. The final version is the only one that is going to have all the 'perks'.
- JR461 11y agoHi, Im new to macs and OS X so can anyone please tell me, whether the El capitan GM will wipe out my mac if Im running El Capitan beta? Or is it safe like any other beta udate?
- donkeyd 11y agoIf it does, it should say so before you install the update.
- jafingi 11y agoIt should be safe. But for good measure do a Time Machine backup beforehand, if something should go wrong.
- porsupah 11y agoWhilst there's always a hypothetical risk, the installer should simply overlay the GM on top - you'll keep all your settings, documents, and other data, with only the OS being updated, just as with any other update. The installer does recommend having a fresh Time Machine backup available. Just kick one off manually and let that complete, then proceed with the update, so if anything should go awry, you can recover from it easily.
- JR461 11y agoThanks guys for fast answers :)
- unicornporn 11y agoI've looking at https://www.apple.com/osx/elcapitan-preview/ https://www.apple.com/osx/elcapitan-preview/, and I can't see one thing that looks interesting to me. Is there anything exciting, for a developer type, that they are excluding?
- mathnode 11y agoPublic transit info, for the dev on the go! And I guess the extra language support is always good for our South East brethren. Split view support sounds good. Let's see how it measures up against things like Spectacle and Amethyst.
- deleted 11y ago[deleted]
- unicornporn 11y agoTo be honest I've almost never used the Maps app. Google Maps does public transportation very well.
- pchm 11y agoMost important change for me: speed. The performance improvements in El Capitan are absolutely amazing compared to the disaster Yosemite is.
- klum 11y agoThis sounds absolutely great, hope it's the same for me (haven't tried El Capitan yet)! On a rMBP with integrated graphics, moving from Mavericks to Yosemite made everything noticeably more sluggish, and everytime I happened to use Mavericks after that, I was struck by how responsive it was.
- JustSomeNobody 11y agoI have stayed on Mavericks for this reason. I likely will move to El Capitan, but I'll wait until the release and see what people say.
- narrator 11y agoDoes anybody else cringe when clicking on os update announcements wondering what the heck they are going to break in the next release? Are they going to add DRM? Telemetry? Remove Key features? Make disk encryption less secure? Make it harder to install non-appstore apps? It just feels like technology is going backwards with each new release of os software.
- emsy 11y agoFeature wise OS X is still fine. You can run everything as long as you unlock it manually, which I find actually valuable since most users should not use unsigned applications. I also trust the software more than Windows (still far less than Linux). Unlike Microsoft, Apple recently stood up for the user's privacy. DRM is still mostly a problem that you can control by buying DRM free. The key point will be stability. Yosemite is a mess. If they fix that it'll be fine.
- coldtea 11y agoThey actually improve the use of disk encryption and security of OS X in every release (including this one).
- superuser2 11y agoThere cannot possibly enough friction between an end-user and the video player they just downloaded from a porn site. There is absolutely no reason for every piece of software you run to have access to your entire filesystem except that we didn't know better 30 years ago. As long as there's a sensible override system that lets users make informed decisions about trust, I can't wait for OSX to converge on the iOS sandboxing model FWIW, FileVault has been getting better, and recent versions have come with other security fixes like defeating Thunderbolt DMA attacks.
- brb3 11y agoFor those wondering about `rootless`, it is implemented as an extended attribute on files/directories. $ xattr /usr com.apple.FinderInfo com.apple.rootless Running `sudo rm -rf /usr` fails. $ sudo rm -rf /usr rm: /usr: Operation not permitted Here is a list of all of the `rootless` files and directories on my system. It appears to be mostly kext files, and Apple applications. https://gist.github.com/bobbyburden/4ce5c42044e5a9967b25 https://gist.github.com/bobbyburden/4ce5c42044e5a9967b25
- jakobegger 11y agoI'm pretty sure that rootless is a good thing. I've seen Macs bricked by seemingly harmless operations like changing important permission settings, or by damaged installer packages. Locking the system down will make it a bit harder to shoot yourself in the foot. Besides the obvious advantage of reducing the attack surface of vulnerabilities.
- super_mario 11y agoThat won't brick your OS X installation. Just boot from external drive and fix the permissions. It's not really that hard, and there is even a recovery partition exactly for problems like that.
- jakobegger 11y agoYep, the recovery partition is also a pretty great feature. But it's even better if you never need it!
- decisiveness 11y agoSeeing `sudo rm -rf /usr` makes me cringe. A more harmless way to check: `sudo touch -a /usr`.
- brb3 11y agoI did it in a VM. :)
- jorisw 11y agoAm I the only one whose Mail.app chose to re-download every message in GMail and mark it unread?
- cclements 11y agoNope, same here.
- sinatra 11y agoDid anyone else here have this issue with Dropbox & Finder in Yosemite where newly added files in Dropbox show up in terminal, but not in Finder. And to force finder to refresh, you need to use a workaround like creating a temporary folder and deleting it? [1] If you did, then do you still see this issue in El Capitan? I may be willing to upgrade to the GM if this issues gets resolved. [1] https://www.dropboxforum.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/201166919-New-files-don-t-show-up-in-Finder-MacOS-Yosemite- https://www.dropboxforum.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/201166...
- nailer 11y agoSome questions for testers: - Does homebrew still work? - Does this fix the mdnsresponder stuff if you had WiFi probs with Yosemite? I've heard they removed mdnsresponder in recent Yosemite updates but I still haven't got WiFi working as reliably as 10.9. - Is it true there's no more OpenSSL binary out of the box?
- macjohnmcc 11y agoIf the upgrade process from 10.9 to 10.10 regarding homebrew is the same I'd disable and remove homebrew before upgrading. It made the upgrade process come to a complete crawl.
- cmiller1 11y ago>Does homebrew still work? When I installed it I just had to manually restore write permission on /usr/local/bin, which it allowed me to do with SIP still on.
- proyb2 11y agoAnyone know if it's possible to disable Intel turboboost or having the same "Power Options" like Windows has for years?
- newman314 11y agoPSA: Do not upgrade to El Capitan if you use Outlook 2011. It's completely broken right now with no fix that I can find. However, on the plus side, they have upgraded openssh to have ed25519 support. Yay.