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I'd prefer things that need formatting be an attachment such as rtf or pdf leaving the email in plain text. There is no reason why personally written email need

I'd prefer things that need formatting be an attachment such as rtf or pdf leaving the email in plain text. There is no reason why personally written email needs rich text.

gress 11y ago
It should also be all caps. There is no reason why personally written email needs two cases.
bigger_cheese 11y ago
I use outlook at my work for email and its not uncommon to send screenshots and similar. A common workflow for me is to hit print screen paste into the message compose window, crop the image and super impose annotations onto it using the office drawing tools (circle, arrows, text box etc). I also like the integration with Communicator and calendar, Having notification about when people are online in meetings and which building they are in (my work has multiple sites) is handy. I don't usually like Microsoft products but Outlook is pretty solid in my opinion. The only alternative I've really seen is Lotus Notes.
- mappu 11y ago
  Does that really crop the image, or just hide parts of it? I ask because cropping in Word can be undone by another recipient.
pbhjpbhj 11y ago
Do you apply an extreme minimalist styling to other areas of your daily life - like "there's no need to clothes to be any other colour than gray"? or "there's no need for food to have a flavour as long as it's nutritious". Genuine question. Most people use some form of flourish even in handwriting - an underline, all-caps, increased letter size or spacing, a personally preferred colour; isn't it weird to not have the facility for that in email?
- thanksgiving 11y ago
  I looked down and I am indeed wearing a plain grey t-shirt. I wouldn't tell people to not wear anything other than gray though. I wouldn't tell people to not eat food and switch to soylent completely. I'm sorry if I appeared to push my viewpoint. That was not my intention. I apologize for my lack of communication skills. I was merely expressing a personal preference. I just wonder why documents that need rich text formatting can't be sent as an attachment instead.
  - pbhjpbhj 11y ago
    Don't MUA handle sending both plaintext and HTML well enough? Thunderbird seems to cope with that at least. I think there is a tendency for minimalists to feel that others should conform to[wards] their ideal, whilst there are many aesthetics and there doesn't appear to be a logical reason to choose one above another [in the general case] - one man's cluttered is another's functional, or whatever. Way back in KDE3 days I was looking for a MUA to move to from Opera Mail and was auditioning KMail, the devs insisted that the display should not be allowed to handle sending HTML emails as a matter of principle. Since then it's been a bit of a touchy subject for me ...
  - yeukhon 11y ago
    I don't know about you, but I write a lot of emails, and I write very long emails, usually to technical people, and believe or not, they don't read everything and they have TL;DR mentality (I don't, I read every word). I also deal with business users in my role, and rich text formatting improves reading when rich text is used appropriately. Compile PDF and upload is just another burden, and sometimes I forget to forward / reply with the attachment there. Wait I want to show table directly on my email (not ascii kind).. that can't be done if you are plaintext. I don't remember if Gmail's integration with Google Docs actually suppose to make links available during reply/forward...

I'd prefer things that need formatting be an attachment such as rtf or pdf leaving the email in plain text. There is no reason why personally written email needs rich text.

gress 11y ago

It should also be all caps. There is no reason why personally written email needs two cases.

bigger_cheese 11y ago

I use outlook at my work for email and its not uncommon to send screenshots and similar. A common workflow for me is to hit print screen paste into the message compose window, crop the image and super impose annotations onto it using the office drawing tools (circle, arrows, text box etc). I also like the integration with Communicator and calendar, Having notification about when people are online in meetings and which building they are in (my work has multiple sites) is handy. I don't usually like Microsoft products but Outlook is pretty solid in my opinion. The only alternative I've really seen is Lotus Notes.

mappu 11y ago
Does that really crop the image, or just hide parts of it? I ask because cropping in Word can be undone by another recipient.

pbhjpbhj 11y ago

Do you apply an extreme minimalist styling to other areas of your daily life - like "there's no need to clothes to be any other colour than gray"? or "there's no need for food to have a flavour as long as it's nutritious". Genuine question. Most people use some form of flourish even in handwriting - an underline, all-caps, increased letter size or spacing, a personally preferred colour; isn't it weird to not have the facility for that in email?

thanksgiving 11y ago
I looked down and I am indeed wearing a plain grey t-shirt. I wouldn't tell people to not wear anything other than gray though. I wouldn't tell people to not eat food and switch to soylent completely. I'm sorry if I appeared to push my viewpoint. That was not my intention. I apologize for my lack of communication skills. I was merely expressing a personal preference. I just wonder why documents that need rich text formatting can't be sent as an attachment instead.
- pbhjpbhj 11y ago
  Don't MUA handle sending both plaintext and HTML well enough? Thunderbird seems to cope with that at least. I think there is a tendency for minimalists to feel that others should conform to[wards] their ideal, whilst there are many aesthetics and there doesn't appear to be a logical reason to choose one above another [in the general case] - one man's cluttered is another's functional, or whatever. Way back in KDE3 days I was looking for a MUA to move to from Opera Mail and was auditioning KMail, the devs insisted that the display should not be allowed to handle sending HTML emails as a matter of principle. Since then it's been a bit of a touchy subject for me ...
- yeukhon 11y ago
  I don't know about you, but I write a lot of emails, and I write very long emails, usually to technical people, and believe or not, they don't read everything and they have TL;DR mentality (I don't, I read every word). I also deal with business users in my role, and rich text formatting improves reading when rich text is used appropriately. Compile PDF and upload is just another burden, and sometimes I forget to forward / reply with the attachment there. Wait I want to show table directly on my email (not ascii kind).. that can't be done if you are plaintext. I don't remember if Gmail's integration with Google Docs actually suppose to make links available during reply/forward...