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Ask HN: What is the best recommended domain name registration site?
I am a newbie regarding the domain registration to host my projects. Google search routed me to these as poular ones:
1. namecheap
2. GoDaddy
3. name dot com
What factors should I consider before buying any one of their packages. Frankly I don't have enough money, Help me decide with your wise advice on this please. Thanks
- oneJob 11y agoNoooooo!!!! None of those. I go with Gandi.net Check them out. They are good people and give back. Never anything but great experiences with Gandi. You'll get a free year of ssl certificate and 50% off hosting. But, to really do it on the cheap, get a BeagleBoard Black and a free micro instance with AWS to route traffic to the BBB, which you just run at home. One time cost of 35$ish plus domain registration costs. Also worth noting, going with a company like Gandi over GoDaddy has many non-immediate and intangible bennifits. A simple Google search on customer problems and company practices of GoDaddy should provide lots of material. In the long run, you don't want to have to be dealing with headaches surrounding domain registration. At all. That should be fire-and-forget. Pay the extra $5 or $10, you'll save yourself plenty of frustration and extra admin time going with the right registrar.
- julien421 11y ago+1 for Gandi
- computer 11y agoI too use Gandi, but am not as happy as I used to be with them. I bought a domain from them a while back with private registration; a few weeks later I found out that private registration was not available for that TLD, and my details were publicly visible, making the domain unusable to me. I emailed Gandi, and they told me there was nothing they could do; they were not willing to refund my money, even though their site said private whois was possible for that TLD.
- soulshake 11y agoHi, AJ from Gandi here. Do you have the ticket number from the subject line of the support email? If we made a mistake like that, we should make it right.
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- amrit_b 11y agoI am using iwantmyname for .io domains. They are charging 59 USD per year. Gandi.net is charging $35 only! Will transfer the domain soon.. Thanks for the info!
- KingMob 11y agoI've used Gandi, and they're ok. I can't tell if it's just my experience, or some weird issue with using American CCs with a French company, but I tend to have a lot of issues setting up automatic payment for renewal. It essentially means I have to manually pay every few months, which is annoying.
- soulshake 11y agoHi, if you were paying through our international payment processor, you should give it another try, as we have a payment processor in the US now. And if you were paying through our US processor, I'd love to have the support ticket number to look into it, as we're really working to eliminate such payment issues.
- dangrossman 11y agoI would never register a domain name with Gandi. They essentially reserve the right to terminate your service if anything on your site is morally upsetting to them. Given most registrars have no policies about what you host on your domain except that they'll comply with court orders, why would you give the right to police the content of your site to Gandi? Given almost every site has some kind of UCG -- forums, comments, reviews -- it's impossible to guarantee compliance with Gandi's service agreement. Hacker News could not be hosted on their service given the content of some of the discussions here. ------------------------------------------- > You acknowledge and accept that, in accordance with Our Ethics the use of any of Gandi services associated to Your Gandi Account: > * it is expressly forbidden for use in any way that engages or participates in practices that are deviant, abusive, illegal, or prejudicial; and > * must be appropriate to the age and sensibility of each of the persons that any of the Content is destined for, directly or indirectly, published or made available to via the technical solutions used > ... > You acknowledge that the following elements are considered as constituting material breaches of Your contractual obligations: > * if We are made aware of, or discover that You provide, or are engaged in, in any way, directly or indirectly, through Our services: > * any provocation or encouragement to commit crimes or offenses, and particularly crimes against humanity or encouragement of racial hatred; > * activity or Content of racist, xenophobic, or negative character; > * activity or Content of pedophile character, or that is liable to constitute or be associated with, either directly or indirectly to it; > * child pornography, or the trivialization of such acts or encouragement of violence, suicide, or the use, production, or distribution of illegal substances, or acts of terrorism;
- soulshake 11y agoHi, AJ from Gandi here. To my knowledge, we don't shut down anything unless we are required to by law or there's spamming involved.
- dangrossman 11y agoWould you buy a car from a dealer that required you to sign a contract stating they could take your car back if you carry a passenger who says something racist? Would you do so even if they promise they don't enforce that clause, when there's ten other dealers in your town that don't make you sign anything like that?
- thaumaturgy 11y agoI had a terrible recent experience with Gandi, bad enough that after transferring a handful of client domains to them from GoDaddy, I turned around and transferred them to another registrar at my own expense. Gandi support is worse than useless. They have no idea what they're doing, they can only read from a script, and the only way to contact them is by email with a nice long turnaround time. Even the tiny little registrar I've used for over a decade (who I don't otherwise recommend because of other big issues they have) has a phone support option and staff with functioning brains.
- soulshake 11y agoHi, AJ from Gandi. That sounds terrible, and not like us at all. Do you think you could provide the ticket number from the subject line of the support email so we can investigate further? For the record: we can provide a callback upon request, and we have live chat support as well.
- thaumaturgy 11y agoHey AJ -- if you're "Alexis J" from support, I think you and I exchanged a couple of messages on this issue: #5926006. It was a little messy: 1. I was using Gandi for, I think, only the second time, and I initiated the account creation process from a domain transfer (account #1). 2. During the account creation process, I think there was a small field labeled something like, "Create a new Gandi handle", which to me sounded like a pretty good idea: I could create something more memorable for my client rather than a random-numbered GANDI- account, so I used the shortened form of my client's primary domain. This created account #2. 3. What actually happened was that both account #1 and account #2 were created, account #2 was an ordinal number away from account #1 (so, SS00003 and SS00004 for example), and the password was clobbered on account #1. 4. I then signed in to account #2 to look at the domain transfer status and found that no domains were listed there. Odd. So I tried signing in to account #1 and couldn't, and I don't remember why but the password reset function wasn't working (I probably wasn't receiving the emails). At this point I thought the UI was a little confusing but it wasn't a big deal. I've dealt with almost exactly this same issue with GoDaddy and it just took a phone call and they sorted it out in a few minutes. I was less happy to realize you don't have a phone support option, but that's on me -- I should've checked that first. I refuse to use live chat because my experience with that has been universally bad; live chat always gets shunted to support people that are restricted to a script and can apologize a lot but never actually fix anything. 5. So I started a support request and was polite at first, explaining the situation. What I got back was a request for "company documentation establishing you as a representative of the company [...]" and "articles of incorporation, and a scan copy of the government issued identification of one of the signing parties on said document". 6. That got a slightly less polite response from me saying that under no circumstances would I burden my client with a paperwork request over this, and reiterating again that it should be clear that I created both account #1 and account #2, that my credit card and billing information was used to pay for the process, that I successfully initiated a transfer of four different domains, and that I thought this should be reasonable and sufficient evidence of access on their behalf. 7. After that there were a couple of more exchanges between Dante A. and Alexis J. and me; Dante wrote a polite long email repeating that there was no way for Gandi to confirm that I created account #1 and giving me a tip for using Gandi in the future, and Alexis J. chimed in to say that Gandi doesn't retain payment information "for security reasons". At this point I was slightly horrified at the experience, especially in the context of having received significantly more useful support from GoDaddy of all places in the past for almost exactly this same issue (merging two accounts). I couldn't imagine sticking a client with this kind of support. I have to navigate support channels for lots of different companies on a regular basis, that's part of my job, and it's unusual for me to get completely stymied by support anymore. It didn't help that all four domains were close to expiration and that one of them appeared to have a transfer problem but you couldn't give me any information on the transfer status of that domain. I was left with one of two choices: either wait and see if the domain transfers first or expires first, or try to initiate an immediate transfer with another registrar and potentially complicate matters even further. I opted for waiting and fortunately that turned out OK, but I had several days to stew over not being able to tell what was going on. I did get one thing wrong in my complaint upthread though, when going back over the email thread I realized your turnaround was pretty OK, there's just shy of four and a half hours elapsed between your initial support response and the second-to-last message in the thread, for a total of 8 messages back and forth. Given the support response, I can't tell if Gandi support was refusing to help for policy reasons, or if support actually doesn't have access to the information that they need to sort out problems like this. If it's the first, Gandi's support personnel need to be trained to handle exceptions IMO. That's why there are humans in support, and not automated Q&A forms. I'm fully aware of the security risks posed by poorly-trained personnel attempting to evaluate a security-related situation, but I think that refusing to think about anything related to security is an even worse response. If it's the second, Gandi's systems need some tweaking. The UI for the account signup process is a bit confusing; "create a new Gandi handle" should do a better job of explaining exactly what's about to happen, and it shouldn't clobber the password for the first account that was created. There's no "security reasons" for not retaining at least the last 4 of the credit card number used for a transaction, and maybe even a billing name and/or zip code. It should also be easy for support personnel to see that one Gandi account created another Gandi account, and if someone sends in a request with a problem like mine, you should be able to say, "oh, ok, you have access to account #2 but everything's stuck in account #1, hang on, let me merge those for you, sorry for the trouble." Also, I just realized I never actually did transfer those domains from Gandi. Oops. Doing that now.
- coreyp_1 11y agoNone of them. They are all too expensive. If they give you a discount on creating the name, then they charge you through the nose to renew it. My current strategy is to ping pong my domain names between GoDaddy and NameCheap, using coupon codes as much as possible. I don't particularly care for either company, and I think that both are still too expensive, but I don't have an alternative at the moment that I am aware of.
- guide42 11y agoI like joker.com
- coreymaass 11y agoAnother vote for joker.com. I've never seen them advertise, and I rarely hear them mentioned. But it's no thrills, no ads, no upsells, just simple domain ownership and DNS management. I've used them for at least 10 years.
- internals 11y agoI love iwantmyname.com. Great company, great site, great support team, and has almost every TLD out there new or old.
- ilmiont 11y agoMe too!
- jacques_chester 11y agoI've tried a few over the years and finally alighted on Gandi. Not always the cheapest, but they're dependable, they're in the EU and they have a very, very broad selection. The latter is important because I have a fairly eclectic mix of domain names and I'm happy to pay a premium so I don't have to deal with 3 different registrars.
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- jkkrrk 11y agoIf you're interested, I'll host your domain for free. I have lots of bandwidth on my VPS, with nothing to use it for.
- ekimekim 11y agoThere's a distinction here between DNS hosting (telling people what address "foo.com" should point to) and domain registration (making it known that your server "owns" that domain and is where people should look for information about it). The former is just running a DNS server, anyone can do it. But the latter involves being an official "registrar" and paying alot of money to add names to the root nameservers' lists.
- jkkrrk 11y agoTrue. I meant I am willing to host the site itself with free bandwidth, if interested.
- blakesterz 11y agoI was with GoDaddy & NetSol for years. I found NetSol was particularly terrible. Been with NameCheap for a few years now and haven't had any trouble. Not a great interface, but the price is right and support has been fine.
- sinatra 11y agoIf you trust Google, you can consider https://domains.google.com/registrar https://domains.google.com/registrar too. It's fairly straight-forward, no nickel and dime, you get private registration for free, and I am quite confident that it'll be hard for someone to use social engineering to steal my domain from there.
- Diti 11y agoIt is restricted to US citizens only.
- kartman 11y agoDO NOT use google as a registrar. They suck. I just finished transferring my domains out of google to namecheap. We are a legitimate, normal business. They unilaterally banned our site and took it down - with no access to transfer it out. Their technical team does not give a response in a timely manner. Our small startup's site was down for 8 days!! If you would like to avoid our experience - never use Google registrar. Now, I am reconsidering use of Google Apps or anything else from them for businesses.
- toothbrush 11y agoNearlyFreeSpeech.net?
- bsilvereagle 11y agoI'm assuming the downvotes are for the brevity of your answer. I've been using NFS for years on low traffic sites and have not had any issues. For the unfamiliar, it's pay as you go for bandwidth and storage, with discounts as you start using more of each. The interface is ancient, and they pass CC costs on to you, but for the price, I've yet to find something better.
- emilssolmanis 11y agoGoDaddy has had a lot of social engineering scandals, I wouldn't ever do any business with them. Been with namecheap for quite a while, had no issues.
- TheOtherHobbes 11y agoI'm with Namecheap. Basic service is good, but the site is often really slow. I had a renewal time-out in the middle of a card verification last month - and that's really not something you want.
- Ologn 11y agoI have used Namecheap for two years. I have had no problems either.
- ilmiont 11y agoI had this question a few months ago and eventually settled on iwantmyname. I'm pleased I did. Simply fantastic service in my experience. Friendly customer service staff who'll just have a light-hearted chat on Twitter and a really, genuinely simple and useful control panel. Pricing OK, I'm paying £9.90/year for a .net, can't remember about others. I highly recommend them.
- speg 11y agoFormer user of both godaddy and namecheap but I've been using hover.com for a while now with no complaints.
- saryant 11y agoI use Namecheap, which offers 2FA. I'm sure others do as well at this point but that's a requirement for me.
- robertlf 11y agoI've been with name.com for probably five years now and I've been pretty happy with them. If I've ever had a question, I can call them and get right through and have my question answered. They haven't given me a reason to look anywhere else.
- caseyf7 11y agoYou may also register domains with Amazon AWS. They are reselling Gandi, but it's $12/year and it's nice to have them all centralized under the AWS console if you use AWS.
- petercooper 11y agoAs a company, we own a lot of domains, so we like to spread the load. We use lots of registrars. Of the major ones, I'd say Namecheap and Gandi are the best. We also use DNSimple who are good but have since moved to "I Want My Name" for the newest ones since they don't require you to upgrade your account the more domains you buy (they price their services into the domain cost instead, which works better for us). All that said, I'd love to have a registrar that just sent us an annual bill for all of our domains (even if it's in advance) rather than billing us separately for every one. It's an accounting headache with all the expenses. I believe GoDaddy does that, but.. no thanks :)
- soulshake 11y agoHello from Gandi! Thanks for the recommendation. You should contact our corporate services team, as they might be able to make this happen for you :) gandi.net/corporate
- altharaz 11y agoI definitely recommend Gandi.net. They have a very easy interface to manage your domains and their zones. As a result, if you develop your business and need more domains, you'll save a lot of time. Plus, they have a good customer service, they offer SSL certificate for 1st year, and free emails addresses.
- davismwfl 11y agoAlmost all mine are registered with either enom or sitelutions.com. sitelutions lets you choose a charity where they donate to and your portion goes to the charity you choose (that they recognize). I have never had a big issue with either, although Sitelutions support has been a little faster in getting back to me when I have a question or issue but I have been moving more to enom because we integrated an app we have with their reseller api.
- pavlov 11y agoFor some domains like .io, it's possible and convenient to buy domains from the TLD registrar directly [1]. No need to involve a reseller in the middle. Otherwise I like EuroDNS [2]. They have decent service and a pretty good web UI overall, compared to some of the other companies. [1] https://www.nic.io https://www.nic.io [2] https://www.eurodns.com https://www.eurodns.com
- zokier 11y agoInteresting that so many recommend Gandi, I wonder if there is some timezone-bias in play. Anyways, you probably should consider actually reading the ToS for the companies you are planning to do business with. I think at least Gandi has fairly vague terms on which they can terminate the service: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3388928 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3388928
- matthewmacleod 11y agoI'm pretty sure almost every service in existence reserves the right to terminate your service for "fairly vague reasons".
- dangrossman 11y agoYet only Gandi explicitly reserves the right to terminate your service for such odd things as discussing hacking, hosting a racist blog comment, or hosting a Keurig coffee maker review that explains how to bypass the K-Cup DRM. Generally, other registrars do not police the content of your domains except to comply with court orders. Gandi's service agreement is very much not boilerplate.
- soulshake 11y agoAFAIK it's a translation of the French contract. But we've seen this comment enough times that our legal team is now reviewing it.
- j_s 11y agoNearlyFreeSpeech.net puts some effort into their libertarian approach: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/help/abuse https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/help/abuse In the end though, every company is going to reserve the option of termination for any reason: NearlyFreeSpeech.NET reserves the right at any time and for any reason, including but not limited to your violation of these TACOS, to limit, suspend, or terminate your use of the Services and to discard any of your Content.
- archimedespi 11y agoJust don't use GoDaddy. Just NO. They've been way overcharging people forever, and their services suck. The two registrars I'd recommend are Namecheap and Google Domains. Yes, Namecheap's site is slow. But their support has been great and they're cheap. (also they have really cheap $1/year whois privacy) Google Domains is nice too, almost everything is $12/year.
- pcunite 11y agodyndns (dyn.com)
- saganus 11y agobluehost has worked for me quite well although it's not really the cheapest option.
- imaginenore 11y agoFuck bluehost. https://www.reddit.com/r/photography/comments/3jdwzc/bluehost_just_suspended_my_account_for_seeming_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/photography/comments/3jdwzc/bluehos...
- saganus 11y agoI guess it would be nice if someone could suggest a registrar that has absolutely zero complains. Like I said, it has worked for me. I didn't say they were perfect. Please show me what domain registrar do you use that you would recommend, and then let's see if there aren't any horror stories whatsoever.
- thaumaturgy 11y agoYou have a point, every time there's a recommendations thread someone comes along to crap on the most popular recommendation (I'm guilty of that too). I've had to work with a pretty large number of different registrars and hosting companies over the years -- part and parcel of being a troubleshooter -- and I'd place Bluehost squarely in the middle of the pack. They've never done anything infuriating, which puts them way ahead of a lot of other companies, but there's also not really anything about them that sets them apart from the rest of their competition, other than maybe their size.
- curiousfab 11y agoMy domains are at Gandi and Hetzner. I do my own DNS with three VPSs in three physical locations on two continents. Gandi and Hetzner both offer 2FA to secure your domains, this is something I find very important, especially with one of my domains having gained quite a value to make it interesting enough a target for a possible theft, and another being so dear to me after more than a decade of use, that I couldn't do without it any more :)
- imaginenore 11y agointernetbs.net The cheapest by far. They don't screw you over on the renewal like most of the registrars.
- adrianmacneil 11y agoiwantmyname.com is great. I've used them for several companies - clean, simple UI, good prices, many TLDs, auto renewal, and helpful support team.
- vbezhenar 11y agoI used mydomain.com and namecheap.com. Both worked well. Namecheap has fancy looking front page and terrible looking control panel, but nothing really bad about it, it's usable.
- nomad101 11y agonamesilo.com -NameSilo is good too. I have been using them for a while. They don't charge you exorbitant renewal rates like some others do. Fuss free registar.
- whistlerbrk 11y agonamecheap has been great for me. Don't use GoDaddy they are scum.
- talawahdotnet 11y agoI used namecheap for a while, they are pretty decent. I switched to https://www.namesilo.com https://www.namesilo.com about a year ago because namesilo doesn't charge you extra for domain privacy. Namesilo keeps pricing very low, simple and straightforward ($8.99/yr for .com). I haven't had any problems with them so far. Stay far away from GoDaddy, they try and lure you in with discounted pricing then jack up the price on certain features later on. They are constantly trying to up sell you something else and they make transferring your domain away unnecessarily complex. At least that was the case when I last used them.
- mdotk 11y agoUniregistry. Domainers prefer it from what I can gather, and they should know.
- chrisked 11y agousing domaindiscount24.com. Fair prices, great interface, amazing service.
- twovi 11y agohover.com is probably the best that I have used.
- thaumaturgy 11y ago> What factors should I consider before buying any one of their packages. Since nobody answered this part: First, I don't recommend having your web hosting and your domain registration with the same company. It's convenient, and most people will never have a problem with it. But, when someone does have a problem with it, having both hosting and domain registration with the same company can make things harder. If your account is suspended for some reason, you lose access to everything; if your hosting is with a different company and you lose access to the domain name, you can get another domain name up and running with minimal effort and point it to your hosting company. If you have a problem with the hosting, you can keep your domain and set up new hosting. Either way, you have half as much trouble as you'd have if you were using a package deal. Second, take a very close look at their terms of service. Anybody can have a bad experience with an otherwise good company; terms of service tells you what kind of company you're likely to be dealing with. People have pointed out elsewhere in the thread significant issues with Gandi's terms of service, for example. Another one is NearlyFreeSpeech.net: if you ever have a problem with your NearlyFreeSpeech.net service and you try to get a freelancer like me to help you out with it, that freelancer will find it nearly impossible to work with NFS. You really don't want to hitch your wagon to a business that will make it unnecessarily difficult to work with their support when something has gone wrong. Third, speaking of support, take a very very close look at what kind of support they offer. Gandi doesn't offer phone support; if you have an urgent problem, you have to rely on email along with all of its crappy other issues and their really slow turnaround time. Look for someone that offers phone support, and before ordering service, go ahead and give the phone support a call and see how difficult it is to reach a live person, what the wait times are like, and how easy it is to understand the tech support person. When you do reach someone, just tell them you waned to see what their support was like before ordering service, they'll understand. (It'll be an easy trouble ticket for them to close.) Do NOT go with the cheapest possible domain registrar. It's just not worth it. The most expensive registrars are like 15 bucks a year for most common TLDs. Going with the cheapest possible one might get you down around $3 a year, so you're saving a dollar a month to buy yourself a headache in the future. There are a couple of domain registrars to avoid: Network Solutions (because they make transfers extraordinarily difficult and because their web interface is confusing as hell) and Gandi (nonexistent/terrible support and stupid ToS). Be careful about going with cheap hosting services. Most of them will put you on a shared plan that will guarantee that your site will go down if it ever gets a little bit of traffic. Most of them have really stupid server configurations that can make managing multiple sites really confusing. I've seen some horrifying security policies and responses from several companies (HostGator immediately comes to mind). NearlyFreeSpeech.net is the cheapest possible web hosting, but they don't offer mail hosting and if you ever need support there's a good chance you're out of luck. They specifically do NOT want to have newbies for customers. GoDaddy has been a big bad problem often in the past, so what I'm about to say makes me a little sick to my stomach, but: they're really not so bad anymore. I've had some excellent experiences with their support over the last year, and they're one of the few companies that offers phone support for everything. Their support people -- most of them, not all of them -- know how to use a commandline and can poke around in server configurations and can talk to you at a level you'll understand. I don't hate having to deal with GoDaddy anymore. That said, do NOT use their mail hosting, they have significant problems with it and nobody there seems to know how to fix it. And nobody's wrong for telling you to stay away from GoDaddy, they've had a well-deserved awful reputation for a long time. Lastly: if you really don't have much money, and you're just getting started, and you don't need anything very fancy (or controversial, I don't make enough money to put up with the headache of supporting a hate site), contact me at my email address in my profile. I will register a domain for you for free (and make sure you have full access and control of it) and also host it for free, mail service included. I admin my own servers. I don't offer the very fastest support response in the world, but you'll have a phone number you can call. I've done this for a couple of other people on HN and no complaints so far (as far as I know).
- nstart 11y agoVery few recommendations for hover.com. Strange. Hover for me has been excellent for domain names. From your question, its unclear if you are looking for a company that does both hosting and domain name registration. If you are ok with a company that does just domain name registration, my combo is hover.com (domain name), and digitalocean.com (project hosting). (Very much aware of potential DNS issues of this. Haven't invested time to figure this out yet)
- ndabas 11y agoGoogle Domains (if you're in the US) or AWS Route 53. They cost about the same ($12/year for most domains, including private registration) but AWS charges extra (about $6/year) if you host your DNS with Route 53 as well.
- kartman 11y agoI posted till a bit further down: DO NOT use google as a registrar. They suck. I just finished transferring my domains out of google to namecheap. We are a legitimate, normal business. They unilaterally banned our site and took it down - with no access to transfer it out. Their technical team does not give a response in a timely manner. Our small startup's site was down for 8 days!! If you would like to avoid our experience - never use Google registrar. Now, I am reconsidering use of Google Apps or anything else from them for businesses.
- ceasos 11y agoThank you all for your words of wisdom. Appreciated !!
- moepstar 11y agoGot all of my domains at https://www.inwx.de/en https://www.inwx.de/en and couldn't be happier. Usually, they're even on the cheaper side of the spectrum too and for the one support case i've had with them they've been good and fast to reply. Also support 2FA via Google Authenticator.
- junto 11y agoNice to see a German company here. Side note: What is it about German company websites and extremely small fonts and "busy designs".