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You don't get these freedoms as a student. Or at least, the school is free to discipline you (or kick you out) however they see fit for basically whatever reaso

You don't get these freedoms as a student. Or at least, the school is free to discipline you (or kick you out) however they see fit for basically whatever reason. You'll notice that there was no mention of police in the article. Our freedoms exist only in respect to the law. I actually do think that the American civil liberties are quite strong. I can go protest in front of a government building with an ISIS flag with no (legal) repercussions if I want to.

sound_of_basker 11y ago
The USA identifies ISIS/ISIL as a terrorist group [0]. There is a good chance that you will at-least be detained for questioning if you carry out said activity. [0] - https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/07/06/remarks-president-progress-fight-against-isil https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/07/06/remar...
jqm 11y ago
"I can go protest in front of a government building with an ISIS flag with no (legal) repercussions if I want to." Oh, there will be repercussions. You just won't know about them right away. Repercussion #1. You will be on a list. Have fun flying or leaving the country any time soon. You might eventually do it, but it won't be fun. Immediate repercussions are almost preferable.
geon 11y ago
> You don't get these freedoms as a student. Exactly. As soon as money enters the picture, all civil liberties tends to be thrown out. Yet, students should IMHO be encouraged to exercise their freedom of speech and assembly. How do you teach a society democracy if not through activities like this? And this is reflected in the low voter turnout. > I actually do think that the American civil liberties are quite strong. I can go protest in front of a government building with an ISIS flag with no (legal) repercussions if I want to. Using this as an example of "strong" freedom is so sad. Really. That should be a basic requirement for any civilized society. Yet, as another poster mentioned, it's probably not even true.

sound_of_basker 11y ago

The USA identifies ISIS/ISIL as a terrorist group [0]. There is a good chance that you will at-least be detained for questioning if you carry out said activity. [0] - https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/07/06/remarks-president-progress-fight-against-isil https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/07/06/remar...

jqm 11y ago

"I can go protest in front of a government building with an ISIS flag with no (legal) repercussions if I want to." Oh, there will be repercussions. You just won't know about them right away. Repercussion #1. You will be on a list. Have fun flying or leaving the country any time soon. You might eventually do it, but it won't be fun. Immediate repercussions are almost preferable.

geon 11y ago

> You don't get these freedoms as a student. Exactly. As soon as money enters the picture, all civil liberties tends to be thrown out. Yet, students should IMHO be encouraged to exercise their freedom of speech and assembly. How do you teach a society democracy if not through activities like this? And this is reflected in the low voter turnout. > I actually do think that the American civil liberties are quite strong. I can go protest in front of a government building with an ISIS flag with no (legal) repercussions if I want to. Using this as an example of "strong" freedom is so sad. Really. That should be a basic requirement for any civilized society. Yet, as another poster mentioned, it's probably not even true.