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I commented on this a year ago or so: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8154909 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8154909 My opinion on this is unchanged

by smtddr 11y ago

I commented on this a year ago or so: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8154909 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8154909 My opinion on this is unchanged and I'm still disturbed by the greed behind this lawsuit.

edent 11y ago
You may enjoy The Fallacy of Relative Privation - http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_as_bad_as http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_as_bad_as "Look, none of you were actually murdered, so it's unfair of you to complain about the beating you received." I'm also curious as to why the greed of the companies doesn't disturb you? To everyone else - join, or form, a union.
littletimmy 11y ago
I am more disturbed at the greed behind the original injustice. The tech companies should be punished, the greed of the plaintiffs is completely irrelevant.
- spacecowboy_lon 11y ago
  Why is it greed if a walmart worker was being stiffed of a dollar an hour its just as bad as a sales guy losing 20% of a five figure bonus.
  - crdoconnor 11y ago
    Walmart workers and stiffed tech workers have more in common than the "masters of the universe" who rule them both.
    - JoeAltmaier 11y ago
      That's a reach. Minimum-wage workers live an order of magnitude differently than either of the others.
      - crdoconnor 11y ago
        Yet both are still reliant upon their labor for their livelihood.
        JoeAltmaier 11y ago
        ...for some definitions of the word 'labor'. A difference is, working for minimum wage leaves you at risk of housing, food, health. Anyone who escapes the trap of too-poor-to-live inhabits a different world.
        crdoconnor 11y ago
        They still have much more in common than either do with tech billionaires or the land owners to whom they both pay half of their income to in rent. There are laborers - minimum wagers and programmers alike - and there those who are parasitic on the labor of others - CEOs, landlords, financiers. That's the real American divide. Not "scraping by" vs "not scraping by".
        JoeAltmaier 11y ago
        Philosophy aside, after your living is secure all the rest is imaginary points. It has to mean less than risk-of-death or living in poverty. Maybe not to a 20-something idealist; but definitely to a parent.
        crdoconnor 11y ago
        Even supposedly secure, well compensated tech workers can usually still count the number of paychecks away from poverty they are. While you can do that you're not really 'secure'. Especially when you're paying $3,200 a month for the privilege of living in a city where they can earn the good money. But we're still taught to sympathize with the Steve Jobs and Larry Pages than the McDonalds servers who can also count the number of paychecks away from destitution they are.
        littletimmy 11y ago
crdoconnor 11y ago
>I'm still disturbed by the greed behind this lawsuit. I'm disturbed that people are taking the billionaires' side in a wage fixing cartel on the principle that breaking the cartel is "greed".

by smtddr 11y ago

edent 11y ago

You may enjoy The Fallacy of Relative Privation - http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_as_bad_as http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_as_bad_as "Look, none of you were actually murdered, so it's unfair of you to complain about the beating you received." I'm also curious as to why the greed of the companies doesn't disturb you? To everyone else - join, or form, a union.

littletimmy 11y ago

I am more disturbed at the greed behind the original injustice. The tech companies should be punished, the greed of the plaintiffs is completely irrelevant.

spacecowboy_lon 11y ago
Why is it greed if a walmart worker was being stiffed of a dollar an hour its just as bad as a sales guy losing 20% of a five figure bonus.
- crdoconnor 11y ago
  Walmart workers and stiffed tech workers have more in common than the "masters of the universe" who rule them both.
  - JoeAltmaier 11y ago
    That's a reach. Minimum-wage workers live an order of magnitude differently than either of the others.
    - crdoconnor 11y ago
      Yet both are still reliant upon their labor for their livelihood.
      - JoeAltmaier 11y ago
        ...for some definitions of the word 'labor'. A difference is, working for minimum wage leaves you at risk of housing, food, health. Anyone who escapes the trap of too-poor-to-live inhabits a different world.
        crdoconnor 11y ago
        They still have much more in common than either do with tech billionaires or the land owners to whom they both pay half of their income to in rent. There are laborers - minimum wagers and programmers alike - and there those who are parasitic on the labor of others - CEOs, landlords, financiers. That's the real American divide. Not "scraping by" vs "not scraping by".
        JoeAltmaier 11y ago
        Philosophy aside, after your living is secure all the rest is imaginary points. It has to mean less than risk-of-death or living in poverty. Maybe not to a 20-something idealist; but definitely to a parent.
        crdoconnor 11y ago
        Even supposedly secure, well compensated tech workers can usually still count the number of paychecks away from poverty they are. While you can do that you're not really 'secure'. Especially when you're paying $3,200 a month for the privilege of living in a city where they can earn the good money. But we're still taught to sympathize with the Steve Jobs and Larry Pages than the McDonalds servers who can also count the number of paychecks away from destitution they are.
        littletimmy 11y ago

crdoconnor 11y ago

>I'm still disturbed by the greed behind this lawsuit. I'm disturbed that people are taking the billionaires' side in a wage fixing cartel on the principle that breaking the cartel is "greed".