Here's a quick (terse) summary of what happened up-thread: "I'm physically in China and I find that the NYT reports on China often don't match the reality that

Here's a quick (terse) summary of what happened up-thread: "I'm physically in China and I find that the NYT reports on China often don't match the reality that I see." "Shut up xinhua shill" Comparing the quality of xinhua and NYT is completely tangential to the point I was trying to make. I'm not saying we can't or shouldn't have a serious discussion about China. I am saying that such a conversation is not happening here. I expect better than this HN.