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> It seems the revelation there are no women on AM is far worse business-wise than the security breach (Maybe not legally). Is it really true though? The estim

> It seems the revelation there are no women on AM is far worse business-wise than the security breach (Maybe not legally). Is it really true though? The estimates were, what, 1,400 available women in total? It's anecdotal but there are thousands of accounts online of people saying they were able to hook up with women and a few who even ended up marrying the woman they hooked it up. Seems a great deal of those would either have to be made up or the estimate people came up with is wildly wrong. I'm not entirely convinced yet.

seren 11y ago
If you are ready to create millions of fake account, you are probably ok with writing false testimonies/reviews. Most likely, some affairs have actually happened, but the "success stories" you've read were probably submarines[0] by AM. [0] http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
- DiabloD3 11y ago
  I think if pg had a Youtube channel where he talks about issues he's written over the years (say, in the format of PBS Idea Channel, just not as caffeinated; and don't get me wrong, PBS Idea Channel, in my opinion, is one of the best web shows on Youtube, but that pace might be me inappropriate for pg.tv), I would probably subscribe.
  - pc86 11y ago
    Something tells me he has more important things going on.
    - matthewowen 11y ago
      like working on arc?
      - jsprogrammer 11y ago
        Extracting value from his resources?
- BinaryIdiot 11y ago
  Probably? Or do you mean possibly? If you mean probably then what data are you going by that shows they probably wrote false testimonials / reviews / etc? It's certainly possible but I haven't seen any data to warrant a "probably" for that assumption but if you have it I'd certainly take a look.
notahacker 11y ago
Given statistical (and anecdotal) evidence for Ashley Madison astroturfing their own site, it's not exactly beyond the realms of possibility they're also willing to astroturf the rest of the internet. Plus the editors of the "sex and relationships" section of most media properties probably see fact-checking as lower on the list of their priorities than the newsroom, especially when publishing an account "by Anonymous" Of course, there are also plenty of real men that would consider "women on there invariably ignore me" to be a far worse admission than "I joined a site to cheat on my wife". I'm not saying the hypothesis that the hack team manipulated the data to make it look even worse is beyond the realms of possibility, but it's even easier to believe one of the sleaziest sites on the internet knew how to do black-hat PR.
- exstudent2 11y ago
  Like this? https://archive.is/jOq2m https://archive.is/jOq2m That whole story seemed bogus and now the data would suggest that it probably is. I think news outlets publish stuff like that because it's pure clickbait and will get traffic. It reads like a press release for AM.
amelius 11y ago
http://gizmodo.com/almost-none-of-the-women-in-the-ashley-madison-database-1725558944 http://gizmodo.com/almost-none-of-the-women-in-the-ashley-ma...

seren 11y ago

If you are ready to create millions of fake account, you are probably ok with writing false testimonies/reviews. Most likely, some affairs have actually happened, but the "success stories" you've read were probably submarines[0] by AM. [0] http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html

DiabloD3 11y ago
I think if pg had a Youtube channel where he talks about issues he's written over the years (say, in the format of PBS Idea Channel, just not as caffeinated; and don't get me wrong, PBS Idea Channel, in my opinion, is one of the best web shows on Youtube, but that pace might be me inappropriate for pg.tv), I would probably subscribe.
- pc86 11y ago
  Something tells me he has more important things going on.
  - matthewowen 11y ago
    like working on arc?
    - jsprogrammer 11y ago
      Extracting value from his resources?
BinaryIdiot 11y ago
Probably? Or do you mean possibly? If you mean probably then what data are you going by that shows they probably wrote false testimonials / reviews / etc? It's certainly possible but I haven't seen any data to warrant a "probably" for that assumption but if you have it I'd certainly take a look.

notahacker 11y ago

Given statistical (and anecdotal) evidence for Ashley Madison astroturfing their own site, it's not exactly beyond the realms of possibility they're also willing to astroturf the rest of the internet. Plus the editors of the "sex and relationships" section of most media properties probably see fact-checking as lower on the list of their priorities than the newsroom, especially when publishing an account "by Anonymous" Of course, there are also plenty of real men that would consider "women on there invariably ignore me" to be a far worse admission than "I joined a site to cheat on my wife". I'm not saying the hypothesis that the hack team manipulated the data to make it look even worse is beyond the realms of possibility, but it's even easier to believe one of the sleaziest sites on the internet knew how to do black-hat PR.

exstudent2 11y ago
Like this? https://archive.is/jOq2m https://archive.is/jOq2m That whole story seemed bogus and now the data would suggest that it probably is. I think news outlets publish stuff like that because it's pure clickbait and will get traffic. It reads like a press release for AM.

amelius 11y ago

http://gizmodo.com/almost-none-of-the-women-in-the-ashley-madison-database-1725558944 http://gizmodo.com/almost-none-of-the-women-in-the-ashley-ma...