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"We expect that you will have your own equipment and your own software. Up&Up uses Macs and Adobe Creative Suite and will expect you will have a late model/vers

"We expect that you will have your own equipment and your own software. Up&Up uses Macs and Adobe Creative Suite and will expect you will have a late model/version of each. " from http://www.upandup.agency/careersjob_id=job_20140721143320_PYKUIEK4CHAK5QZM http://www.upandup.agency/careersjob_id=job_20140721143320_P... the nerve...

Kalium 11y ago
So three months of that at their cited rate of pay will just about cover equipment costs... before you consider taxes.
hmottestad 11y ago
At least it is possible to "rent" all the Adobe Creative Suite software for 75$ a month.
kmfrk 11y ago
They probably require you to install Java as well. Barbarians …
flexie 11y ago
I have mixed feelings about that. You know, many young kids actually have a Mac already, and if not, a new Mac and a monthly subscription for Adobe costs a fraction of what 3 months in college costs. And if you've already spent a couple of years in college studying literature, algebra, music, philosophy, psychology, introduction to business and what not, you might just want some practical experience that within a few months could actually land you a job that provides a decent paycheck.
- michaelt 11y ago
  you might just want some practical experience that within a few months could actually land you a job that provides a decent paycheck. It always struck me as ironic that student engineers, who are on track for well paid jobs, get offered paid internships; but student journalists, who are on course for poorly paid jobs, are expected to do unpaid internships - or even pay to do internships.
  - Findy3ti 11y ago
    I am a little confused as to how that is ironic. Strikes me as anything but that
    - michaelt 11y ago
      To vastly over-simplify our economy, we usually expect people with greater ability to pay to pay the same or more for substitutable goods. For example, people with more money can buy fancy coffee from starbucks, while typically people who can't afford that will make do with instant coffee. In this case, the people with the greater ability to pay have to pay less. That seems ironic to me, even though I know enough about the economy to understand why it happens.
      - spacecowboy_lon 11y ago
        There are far more English lit grads that are competing for any job with a "publisher" or "journalism" Also newspapers are well known for poverty level wages even when they had 30% profit margin. A major publisher can pick and chose from ox-bridge grads who got a first.
  - spacecowboy_lon 11y ago
    sorry where are these well paid engineers?
- spacecowboy_lon 11y ago
  So rich kids whose mommy or daddy brought them a mac - not what I woudl be looking for
spacecowboy_lon 11y ago
Makes Amazon seem a good place to work

Kalium 11y ago

So three months of that at their cited rate of pay will just about cover equipment costs... before you consider taxes.

hmottestad 11y ago

At least it is possible to "rent" all the Adobe Creative Suite software for 75$ a month.

kmfrk 11y ago

They probably require you to install Java as well. Barbarians …

flexie 11y ago

I have mixed feelings about that. You know, many young kids actually have a Mac already, and if not, a new Mac and a monthly subscription for Adobe costs a fraction of what 3 months in college costs. And if you've already spent a couple of years in college studying literature, algebra, music, philosophy, psychology, introduction to business and what not, you might just want some practical experience that within a few months could actually land you a job that provides a decent paycheck.

michaelt 11y ago
you might just want some practical experience that within a few months could actually land you a job that provides a decent paycheck. It always struck me as ironic that student engineers, who are on track for well paid jobs, get offered paid internships; but student journalists, who are on course for poorly paid jobs, are expected to do unpaid internships - or even pay to do internships.
- Findy3ti 11y ago
  I am a little confused as to how that is ironic. Strikes me as anything but that
  - michaelt 11y ago
    To vastly over-simplify our economy, we usually expect people with greater ability to pay to pay the same or more for substitutable goods. For example, people with more money can buy fancy coffee from starbucks, while typically people who can't afford that will make do with instant coffee. In this case, the people with the greater ability to pay have to pay less. That seems ironic to me, even though I know enough about the economy to understand why it happens.
    - spacecowboy_lon 11y ago
      There are far more English lit grads that are competing for any job with a "publisher" or "journalism" Also newspapers are well known for poverty level wages even when they had 30% profit margin. A major publisher can pick and chose from ox-bridge grads who got a first.
- spacecowboy_lon 11y ago
  sorry where are these well paid engineers?
spacecowboy_lon 11y ago
So rich kids whose mommy or daddy brought them a mac - not what I woudl be looking for

spacecowboy_lon 11y ago

Makes Amazon seem a good place to work