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I find it horrifying that on a Haswell i7 a chat app or a text editor STUTTERS. It's really ridiculous and sad at the same time.

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zanny 11y ago
For every clock your CPU gets, a developer will find a way to waste it. Why is there so much interest in HTML + Javascript based normal applications? They are slow, the langauges are awful, but besides Qt they are the ultimate portability. So sacrifice all those hz gains and power efficiency to make the developer workload minimal.
- andreasklinger 11y ago
  I assume because developers approach it with a different mindset: Theoretically all of this problems can and will be solved. The advantage would persist. But agree. Reality looks often different
- pjmlp 11y ago
  Besides Qt, JavaFX, wxWidgets, Xwt, even Gtk offer a better native experience than a browser widget.
- Shorel 11y ago
  Script kiddies are cheaper than C++ developers.
swah 11y ago
Hear, hear. http://handmadehero.org http://handmadehero.org is almost therapy for me in that regard: Casey looks at assembly output from the compiler all the time.
svdree 11y ago
Yeah, it's amazing. We've had decades of improvements in hardware performance, only to end up with software that's slower than anything that came before it. Yet apart from a small minority, nobody seems to bat an eye.
- kuschku 11y ago
  Oh, the people do care. Even my mum complains every day about it. "Can’t be that a 4 year old smartphone can’t run a chat app like whatsapp fluently" But she refuses to buy a new phone, because that would just fuel this even more.
  - goldenkey 11y ago
    Or rather, the new phone would burn jet fuel even more.. That's the main problem, we shouldn't be coding for saturation of resources. It's ridiculous how wasteful apps are these days.
    - kuschku 11y ago
      Yes, that is the exact issue. Upgrading just costs money and does not really improve anything. I see it myself, upgraded from Huawei Ideos X3 (2.3.7) to Motorola Moto G (5.0), and it’s just as slow as the old phone was. Despite being twice as expensive.
- maccard 11y ago
  There's plenty of us (game developers) that do our best to push the hardware!
copperx 11y ago
I'll always remember fondly coding in my 486 days with the Borland Turbo C++ IDE; we had no keystroke latency at all back then.

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zanny 11y ago

For every clock your CPU gets, a developer will find a way to waste it. Why is there so much interest in HTML + Javascript based normal applications? They are slow, the langauges are awful, but besides Qt they are the ultimate portability. So sacrifice all those hz gains and power efficiency to make the developer workload minimal.

andreasklinger 11y ago
I assume because developers approach it with a different mindset: Theoretically all of this problems can and will be solved. The advantage would persist. But agree. Reality looks often different
pjmlp 11y ago
Besides Qt, JavaFX, wxWidgets, Xwt, even Gtk offer a better native experience than a browser widget.
Shorel 11y ago
Script kiddies are cheaper than C++ developers.

swah 11y ago

Hear, hear. http://handmadehero.org http://handmadehero.org is almost therapy for me in that regard: Casey looks at assembly output from the compiler all the time.

svdree 11y ago

Yeah, it's amazing. We've had decades of improvements in hardware performance, only to end up with software that's slower than anything that came before it. Yet apart from a small minority, nobody seems to bat an eye.

kuschku 11y ago
Oh, the people do care. Even my mum complains every day about it. "Can’t be that a 4 year old smartphone can’t run a chat app like whatsapp fluently" But she refuses to buy a new phone, because that would just fuel this even more.
- goldenkey 11y ago
  Or rather, the new phone would burn jet fuel even more.. That's the main problem, we shouldn't be coding for saturation of resources. It's ridiculous how wasteful apps are these days.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    Yes, that is the exact issue. Upgrading just costs money and does not really improve anything. I see it myself, upgraded from Huawei Ideos X3 (2.3.7) to Motorola Moto G (5.0), and it’s just as slow as the old phone was. Despite being twice as expensive.
maccard 11y ago
There's plenty of us (game developers) that do our best to push the hardware!

copperx 11y ago

I'll always remember fondly coding in my 486 days with the Borland Turbo C++ IDE; we had no keystroke latency at all back then.