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uh, this story is about italy.

waterlesscloud 11y ago
Sure. But the point is that the money all goes to the local good ol' boys, whoever they are. The local contractors who pour concrete. Beyond that...well, no one cares.
seanmcdirmid 11y ago
So? It's the same story in countries with highish levels of corruption.
- chrischen 11y ago
  China's corruption is almost all a byproduct of rapid growth. Italy's lacks that growth right now so their corruption is coming from somewhere else, perhaps intrinsic.
  - seanmcdirmid 11y ago
    It doesn't matter where the corruption comes from, the rules of the game for transferring money from public pocket A to private pocket B using sham projects are pretty universal.
  - moron4hire 11y ago
    Did you just say that Italians are intrinsically corrupt people? I hope that's not what that meant.
    - perfTerm 11y ago
      I think parent meant the Italian system of goverment and their society. It wouldn't make sense to imbide the intrinsic qualities of something as large as the Italian nation as a whole into their citizens at birth.
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- marincounty 11y ago
  I don't care what political/economic system you have; if you don't have a way of Stomping out corruption--your system won't work, or won't work very long. For all our(United States) faults, what I am most proud of is that corrupt individuals are eventually caught. It might take too much time, but in the end; they are usually caught. Personally, I despise corruption, and nepotism! (I threw in nepotism because I believe the best person should get the job, not the guy who has networked the most? Plus, it's been on my mind lately.)
  - wtbob 11y ago
    > For all our(United States) faults, what I am most proud of is that corrupt individuals are eventually caught. Individuals, perhaps, but not groups. George Will has a great column today about whaling museums, the mohair subsidy and sugar tariffs, as examples of the sort of petty corruption which we fall prey to.
    - onthedole 11y ago
      George Will's column: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-barnacled-budget/2015/08/14/0539573e-41d6-11e5-846d-02792f854297_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-barnacled-budget/2...

Sure. But the point is that the money all goes to the local good ol' boys, whoever they are. The local contractors who pour concrete. Beyond that...well, no one cares.

seanmcdirmid 11y ago

So? It's the same story in countries with highish levels of corruption.

chrischen 11y ago
China's corruption is almost all a byproduct of rapid growth. Italy's lacks that growth right now so their corruption is coming from somewhere else, perhaps intrinsic.
- seanmcdirmid 11y ago
  It doesn't matter where the corruption comes from, the rules of the game for transferring money from public pocket A to private pocket B using sham projects are pretty universal.
- moron4hire 11y ago
  Did you just say that Italians are intrinsically corrupt people? I hope that's not what that meant.
  - perfTerm 11y ago
    I think parent meant the Italian system of goverment and their society. It wouldn't make sense to imbide the intrinsic qualities of something as large as the Italian nation as a whole into their citizens at birth.
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marincounty 11y ago
I don't care what political/economic system you have; if you don't have a way of Stomping out corruption--your system won't work, or won't work very long. For all our(United States) faults, what I am most proud of is that corrupt individuals are eventually caught. It might take too much time, but in the end; they are usually caught. Personally, I despise corruption, and nepotism! (I threw in nepotism because I believe the best person should get the job, not the guy who has networked the most? Plus, it's been on my mind lately.)
- wtbob 11y ago
  > For all our(United States) faults, what I am most proud of is that corrupt individuals are eventually caught. Individuals, perhaps, but not groups. George Will has a great column today about whaling museums, the mohair subsidy and sugar tariffs, as examples of the sort of petty corruption which we fall prey to.
  - onthedole 11y ago
    George Will's column: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-barnacled-budget/2015/08/14/0539573e-41d6-11e5-846d-02792f854297_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-barnacled-budget/2...