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Iran's problem is a completely US manufactured crisis. I do not understand how people are so myopic to history. FACT: # Iran had a democratic secular governm
by 1971genocide 11y ago
Iran's problem is a completely US manufactured crisis.
I do not understand how people are so myopic to history.
FACT:
# Iran had a democratic secular government in 1950.
# However this govt was not friendly to a British oil company ( BP ).
# The British requested american help to protect the interest of British multinationals.
# The grandson of Theodore Roosevelt personally helped overthrow this democratically legitimate government.
# The hated shan was put in power whom the iranian people really did not like. The shan went back to trading oil for weapons with the Americans/UK.
# From the perceptive of an iranian it must suck to know that your government was overthrown by some foreign entity just for the sake of a oil company. The iranian/persian who are among the oldest of civilizations ( 5,000 years ).
# Of-course this leads to a revolution and a anti-american ayatollah is put in power.
# Americans are nothing but vindictive when it comes to geo-politics and arm Saddam to his teeth giving him chemical weapons.
# Saddam Invades Iraq just while the Iranian are recovering from a revolution to now have to face against a terrible dictator who wants to invade their country.
# Iran had to indure a 8 year war in the 1980s, a war that took a huge toll. The battles fought looked like something out of WW2.
# Next america invades the country to their left and their right and puts a huge amount of ground troops in the south and allies with all of Iran's neighbour. Most of whom hate the Iranians just because they are not the SAME wahhabi muslims as them.
# Iran ofcourse wants a nuclear weapon to stabilize the huge power imbalance they face. They never interfered or invaded a neighbour for 1000s of years and now suddenly they are treated like the scum of the earth.
# The biggest loser in all of this has been the Iranian and poor sunnis civilians who are having to deal with the blunt of ISIS and the likes.
- guard-of-terra 11y agoWhy did they force religious rituals on everyone, by force? As far as I am concerned this has no excuses and you can't blame USA for that. Islamism strips Iran of any but very rudimantary sympathy. "the year after the Islamic Revolution.., girls were obliged to wear the veil and segregated by gender" No excuse for that!
- 1971genocide 11y agoThat has nothing to do with international geo-politics. And if we are talking about what governments of countries force on their people lets start with the Saudis first. And I would like to remind you to in america you have similar level of bigotry with Christians. Iran has slightly more bigotry - does not mean you invade them.
- guard-of-terra 11y agoI'm not in america. No, it's not the same. Most of the world don't force women to be wrapped in tapestry against their will. Once you do there's zero compassion towards you.
- adventured 11y ago> They never interfered or invaded a neighbour for 1000s of years No, instead Iran has used proxies like Hezbollah to do their interfering. They use a cowardly approach because they know their actions are despicable, it provides deniability. They want something to occur, but they don't want to take responsibility for it, which tells you all you need to know about the actions in question. And before you say: well but America has done x y z - that's already understood. We're talking about Iran. Iran doesn't get excused from its misdeeds because America has done something bad too.
- 1971genocide 11y agoHezbollah was not a aggressive militia group. It was an resistance to illegal Isreali Occupation In Lebanon. If you consider this to be a cowardly act, then its no more different than the cowardly act of the French resistance against the Nazis. If the Iranian are cowards then so are the Americans, Pakistanis, Russians, Israeli, Chinese and British. This is why the Iranian are more than well justified to own a nuclear weapon - since everyone tries to covertly try to overthrow their government, and they do not have a useful deterrent against superpower nations.
- smallhands 11y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyWFa5xbHKg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyWFa5xbHKg
- selimthegrim 11y agoI was done with Hezbollah when they murdered Hariri. Try to file that one under 'resistance'
- akzfowl 11y ago> No, instead Iran has used proxies like Hezbollah to do their interfering. They use a cowardly approach because they know their actions are despicable, it provides deniability. Hmm, so you just expect them to sit quietly and accept whatever is happening around them? The constant incursions by western countries into their backyard means they have a huge stake in any wars fought nearby. Imagine China(a country from the other side of the world) attacking Mexico for whatever reason, leading to even more people trying to get illegally into the US- can you imagine the hubbub this would undoubtedly cause? And this is without all the latent religious tension of the middle-east... The way I see it, the United States made a huge mistake backing a tyrannical figure in Iran when they could have easily encouraged a vibrant democracy. Instead, they decided to support the Saudis who have shown almost no progress towards a better system of governance. They even went as far as praising the late ruler even though the state of human and civil rights in Saudi Arabia is much worse compared to Iran. Expecting a government and people whose country you have wronged time and again over an extended period of time to forgive you is just plain silly. Further, expecting them to sit by idly while the nations around them are tearing themselves apart and being invaded(at times on false pretenses) is just a whole new level of dumb.
- selimthegrim 11y agoMossadeq was authoritarian, not democratic.