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I Will Kill You [video]

159 points by nnd 11y ago

matt_morgan 11y ago
This title is kind of off-putting out of context, so here's what it's about (from the description on the video): "Have you ever wanted to kill someone? Do you want to get rid of your partner, your boss or your arch nemesis? Perhaps you want to enjoy your life insurance payout whilst you’re still alive. Do you have rich elderly parents that just won’t die quick enough? Or do you want a “Do Over” new identity. Then, this presentation is for you! I’ll provide you with the insight and techniques on how to “kill” someone and obtain a real death certificate and shutdown their lives. It focuses on the lack of security controls that allow any of us to virtually kill off anyone or any number of people ... The presentation will explain the death process and will highlight the vulnerabilities and its implications world-wide ... The third and final step of the presentation is “The baby harvest”, a concept that I’ve developed, which involves creating and raising virtual identities ..."
- jessriedel 11y ago
  Amazing how similar this is to some academic physics papers in trying to make boring results more interesting by choosing ear-catching phrasing. I hear this stuff so much I immediately quit wanting to listen to the author.
  - jMyles 11y ago
    I gotta admit: I'm kind of a sucker for it. I like how the DefCon talks have a certain passion to them. Sometimes I think that people who are obsessed with inventing... well, we give off the vibe that we aren't excited about living our lives. I'm up at 5:24AM my time really taking a deep dive into twisted thread management. Why? Well, if I had a reason like, "I WILL KILL YOU," then I might actually want to answer that question.
probably_wrong 11y ago
For those looking into how this plays in real life, here are two articles from a legal humor blog: one about the man mentioned in the presentation[1], and another one aptly titled "Legally dead man sentenced to be actually dead"[2]. [1] http://www.loweringthebar.net/2014/08/feds-say-legally-dead-is-slightly-alive.html http://www.loweringthebar.net/2014/08/feds-say-legally-dead-... [2] http://www.loweringthebar.net/2014/09/legally-dead-man-sentenced-to-be-actually-dead.html http://www.loweringthebar.net/2014/09/legally-dead-man-sente...
chillydawg 11y ago
That is fantastic.
aw3c2 11y ago
> Unfortunately, this video is not available in your country because it could contain music from SME, for which we could not agree on conditions of use with GEMA. Thanks for using non-free music. :(
- pille 11y ago
  > Thanks for using non-free music. You're putting a lot of faith in GEMA's judgement on the matter, aren't you?
  - Joeboy 11y ago
    The video contains a fairly lengthy clip of Don't Fear the Reaper by the Blue Oyster Cult.
  - arsenide 11y ago
    If it is not a false judgment, then what is the problem?
- deleted 11y ago
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- kephra 11y ago
  I there an alternate source for this video, who does not censor?
Joeboy 11y ago
UK undercover police recycled the identities of children who died young, borrowing a technique described in Frederick Forsythe's The Day of the Jackal. http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/feb/03/police-spies-identities-dead-children http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/feb/03/police-spies-ident...
- TrevorJ 11y ago
  I'd be pissed if I was a parent of one of those kids.
  - scott_karana 11y ago
    I'd look into suing them, too. "Willful impersonation" is probably illegal, unless there's some nasty LEO-covering provision.
fao_ 11y ago
Perhaps put 'DEFCON 23 - ' in the title?
thisjepisje 11y ago
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060955/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060955/
yock 11y ago
I'm missing the epilogue here. His video implies that he really went through this process with a real person, so where's the fallout?

159 points by nnd 11y ago

This title is kind of off-putting out of context, so here's what it's about (from the description on the video): "Have you ever wanted to kill someone? Do you want to get rid of your partner, your boss or your arch nemesis? Perhaps you want to enjoy your life insurance payout whilst you’re still alive. Do you have rich elderly parents that just won’t die quick enough? Or do you want a “Do Over” new identity. Then, this presentation is for you! I’ll provide you with the insight and techniques on how to “kill” someone and obtain a real death certificate and shutdown their lives. It focuses on the lack of security controls that allow any of us to virtually kill off anyone or any number of people ... The presentation will explain the death process and will highlight the vulnerabilities and its implications world-wide ... The third and final step of the presentation is “The baby harvest”, a concept that I’ve developed, which involves creating and raising virtual identities ..."

jessriedel 11y ago
Amazing how similar this is to some academic physics papers in trying to make boring results more interesting by choosing ear-catching phrasing. I hear this stuff so much I immediately quit wanting to listen to the author.
- jMyles 11y ago
  I gotta admit: I'm kind of a sucker for it. I like how the DefCon talks have a certain passion to them. Sometimes I think that people who are obsessed with inventing... well, we give off the vibe that we aren't excited about living our lives. I'm up at 5:24AM my time really taking a deep dive into twisted thread management. Why? Well, if I had a reason like, "I WILL KILL YOU," then I might actually want to answer that question.

probably_wrong 11y ago

For those looking into how this plays in real life, here are two articles from a legal humor blog: one about the man mentioned in the presentation[1], and another one aptly titled "Legally dead man sentenced to be actually dead"[2]. [1] http://www.loweringthebar.net/2014/08/feds-say-legally-dead-is-slightly-alive.html http://www.loweringthebar.net/2014/08/feds-say-legally-dead-... [2] http://www.loweringthebar.net/2014/09/legally-dead-man-sentenced-to-be-actually-dead.html http://www.loweringthebar.net/2014/09/legally-dead-man-sente...

chillydawg 11y ago

That is fantastic.

aw3c2 11y ago

> Unfortunately, this video is not available in your country because it could contain music from SME, for which we could not agree on conditions of use with GEMA. Thanks for using non-free music. :(

pille 11y ago
> Thanks for using non-free music. You're putting a lot of faith in GEMA's judgement on the matter, aren't you?
- Joeboy 11y ago
  The video contains a fairly lengthy clip of Don't Fear the Reaper by the Blue Oyster Cult.
- arsenide 11y ago
  If it is not a false judgment, then what is the problem?
deleted 11y ago
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kephra 11y ago
I there an alternate source for this video, who does not censor?

Joeboy 11y ago

UK undercover police recycled the identities of children who died young, borrowing a technique described in Frederick Forsythe's The Day of the Jackal. http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/feb/03/police-spies-identities-dead-children http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/feb/03/police-spies-ident...

TrevorJ 11y ago
I'd be pissed if I was a parent of one of those kids.
- scott_karana 11y ago
  I'd look into suing them, too. "Willful impersonation" is probably illegal, unless there's some nasty LEO-covering provision.

fao_ 11y ago

Perhaps put 'DEFCON 23 - ' in the title?

thisjepisje 11y ago

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060955/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060955/

yock 11y ago

I'm missing the epilogue here. His video implies that he really went through this process with a real person, so where's the fallout?