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They just mass emailed Model S customers to reduce Super Charging. https://i.imgur.com/ruKYVHF.png https://i.imgur.com/ruKYVHF.png http://www.teslamotorsclub.

by noipv4 11y ago

They just mass emailed Model S customers to reduce Super Charging. https://i.imgur.com/ruKYVHF.png https://i.imgur.com/ruKYVHF.png http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/51482-Supercharging-letter-from-Tesla-2015-8-13 http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/51482-Supercha...

jedmeyers 11y ago
I expected the worst - for it to be due to technical issue with the batteries, however it looks like it is mostly related to the Superchargers being congested and not available immediately to everyone in need of charging.
- brianwawok 11y ago
  Sure it depends on the region. I live in the Midwest along the supercharge path. The mall by me has 3 or 4 supercharge stations, which I think is approximately 4x the number of teslas owners living in my city. About half the time all 4 stalls are empty, about half the time I see 1 car. Which is "good" in that people on a long trip can get their charge on without having to wait in line. I suspect if I lived in town and drove a Tesla, I would use it a little more often for the free power ;) Maybe just adding a $5 charge cost would be enough to balance out supply and demand? $5 a tank is still a good deal on a long trip, but hardly worth going out of my way to do (when I can charge for $2 at home)
takeda 11y ago
They have been doing this for a while now. Either you recently used super chargers too much our they made a mistake and sent it to you.
- 27182818284 11y ago
  Seeing this is very disheartening to folks like me that really gush over Tesla and see free solar-powered superchargers as a bright future :-/ This is above anything else I've seen about Tesla ever bums me out the most. It is like getting "unlimited" data to find out that you're actually punished at more than 2 GB. It is super lame behavior.
verelo 11y ago
Wow, so just ~2 weeks ago when I visited the Tesla show room in Toronto Canada, in response to my concern, "My condo building isn't letting me install an EV charger at this time, so i probably cant buy one" i was told "Well you can come here and charge any time, its free and not that much longer than having to fill up your car a gas station anyway" At the end of the day, I feel like I avoided a bullet here, I ended up buying a Mercedes-benz instead...the interior of the Tesla (mainly lack of tactile feedback due to the touch screen, and simple things like there being no button for the sun roof) was just not up to scratch, and potentially a dangerous distraction to the driver, in my opinion.
- jccooper 11y ago
  Show room charger is a "destination charger", which is different. Besides, the letter is a nudge, not a ban. But: I don't think I'd buy an electric if I couldn't charge at home, so I don't disagree with you there.
- rsync 11y ago
  "the interior of the Tesla (mainly lack of tactile feedback due to the touch screen, and simple things like there being no button for the sun roof) was just not up to scratch" Setting aside the design differences (the Tesla interior is very modern and stark and has very simple design) the quality and featureset of the Tesla interior is roughly equivalent to a 3-series BMW or an Audi A4. Which is to say, it's glaringly insufficient for what is usually spec'd out as a 90-120k car. Let's tilt the field in favor of Tesla and compare only against mid-sized, mid-ranged competitors, which are the 5-series, A6 and E-class. Those have much, much nicer materials, more adjustable seats, features like ventilated seats ... it's hard to believe that this far through the lifecycle the model S interior is so lacking.
  - brianwawok 11y ago
    Is this a matter of design or a matter or budget? If all the electric features are making the car already expensive... maybe the market would not react well to another 10k in price to add some luxury features like ventilated seats. If things like ventilated seats are really only a few dollars to add, then maybe it was indeed a weird choice to make. But not seeing Tesla currently having a huge glut of inventory to unload, so seems to be filling some kind of market niche ("Not the nicest luxury car, but fast and eco and pretty nice")
seiji 11y ago
A sign of the times: nobody is questioning the privacy issue of Tesla tracking individual usage history. Are they tracking usage by correlating GPS in the car to charger locations or does the car charger interface transmit a serial number back to the charger? Is there reason to believe Tesla doesn't maintain long-term records of every vehicle's entire GPS-enabled driving history? Automated-everything sounds great until something nefarious happens, but by then it's too late to put the convenience genie back in the bottle.
- titanomachy 11y ago
  Well, it has to make sure that the person/car using the supercharger has actually paid for the privilege... which means it has to identify you somehow. The fact that it keeps a record of this data is no more surprising to me than a store keeping electronic copies of my receipts.

by noipv4 11y ago

jedmeyers 11y ago

I expected the worst - for it to be due to technical issue with the batteries, however it looks like it is mostly related to the Superchargers being congested and not available immediately to everyone in need of charging.

brianwawok 11y ago
Sure it depends on the region. I live in the Midwest along the supercharge path. The mall by me has 3 or 4 supercharge stations, which I think is approximately 4x the number of teslas owners living in my city. About half the time all 4 stalls are empty, about half the time I see 1 car. Which is "good" in that people on a long trip can get their charge on without having to wait in line. I suspect if I lived in town and drove a Tesla, I would use it a little more often for the free power ;) Maybe just adding a $5 charge cost would be enough to balance out supply and demand? $5 a tank is still a good deal on a long trip, but hardly worth going out of my way to do (when I can charge for $2 at home)

takeda 11y ago

They have been doing this for a while now. Either you recently used super chargers too much our they made a mistake and sent it to you.

27182818284 11y ago
Seeing this is very disheartening to folks like me that really gush over Tesla and see free solar-powered superchargers as a bright future :-/ This is above anything else I've seen about Tesla ever bums me out the most. It is like getting "unlimited" data to find out that you're actually punished at more than 2 GB. It is super lame behavior.

verelo 11y ago

Wow, so just ~2 weeks ago when I visited the Tesla show room in Toronto Canada, in response to my concern, "My condo building isn't letting me install an EV charger at this time, so i probably cant buy one" i was told "Well you can come here and charge any time, its free and not that much longer than having to fill up your car a gas station anyway" At the end of the day, I feel like I avoided a bullet here, I ended up buying a Mercedes-benz instead...the interior of the Tesla (mainly lack of tactile feedback due to the touch screen, and simple things like there being no button for the sun roof) was just not up to scratch, and potentially a dangerous distraction to the driver, in my opinion.

jccooper 11y ago
Show room charger is a "destination charger", which is different. Besides, the letter is a nudge, not a ban. But: I don't think I'd buy an electric if I couldn't charge at home, so I don't disagree with you there.
rsync 11y ago
"the interior of the Tesla (mainly lack of tactile feedback due to the touch screen, and simple things like there being no button for the sun roof) was just not up to scratch" Setting aside the design differences (the Tesla interior is very modern and stark and has very simple design) the quality and featureset of the Tesla interior is roughly equivalent to a 3-series BMW or an Audi A4. Which is to say, it's glaringly insufficient for what is usually spec'd out as a 90-120k car. Let's tilt the field in favor of Tesla and compare only against mid-sized, mid-ranged competitors, which are the 5-series, A6 and E-class. Those have much, much nicer materials, more adjustable seats, features like ventilated seats ... it's hard to believe that this far through the lifecycle the model S interior is so lacking.
- brianwawok 11y ago
  Is this a matter of design or a matter or budget? If all the electric features are making the car already expensive... maybe the market would not react well to another 10k in price to add some luxury features like ventilated seats. If things like ventilated seats are really only a few dollars to add, then maybe it was indeed a weird choice to make. But not seeing Tesla currently having a huge glut of inventory to unload, so seems to be filling some kind of market niche ("Not the nicest luxury car, but fast and eco and pretty nice")

seiji 11y ago

A sign of the times: nobody is questioning the privacy issue of Tesla tracking individual usage history. Are they tracking usage by correlating GPS in the car to charger locations or does the car charger interface transmit a serial number back to the charger? Is there reason to believe Tesla doesn't maintain long-term records of every vehicle's entire GPS-enabled driving history? Automated-everything sounds great until something nefarious happens, but by then it's too late to put the convenience genie back in the bottle.

titanomachy 11y ago
Well, it has to make sure that the person/car using the supercharger has actually paid for the privilege... which means it has to identify you somehow. The fact that it keeps a record of this data is no more surprising to me than a store keeping electronic copies of my receipts.