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We have an enterprise edition VM in test and it appears to react the same as Pro at least. Haven't tried home. What is scary is the lack of GPOs to turn this s

We have an enterprise edition VM in test and it appears to react the same as Pro at least. Haven't tried home. What is scary is the lack of GPOs to turn this stuff off which you'd expect in an enterprise product. Technically we can't apply policy to make this compliant with our data protection requirements. Their funeral to be honest.

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ultramancool 11y ago
There's actually some GPOs to turn this stuff off. I'm running Enterprise on my desktop... the problem is that many of them don't work or only disable the UI, but still connect out to random Microsoft servers. How the hell does Microsoft think that's acceptable in an "Enterprise" product?
- uxcn 11y ago
  This was something I was wondering about. It seems like any company that has proprietary data to protect or privacy laws to comply with (most) don't even have a choice. I personally don't use Windows a lot, but even knowing that information was being sent out by default would be a deal breaker for me. Can you give some examples of the stuff that does actually have switches?
  - ultramancool 11y ago
    > Can you give some examples of the stuff that does actually have switches? Yeah, if you disable the Search thing in the start menu for example, it _does_ stop sending your queries to Bing. That switch does work. It just sends a bunch of tracking info instead. On Enterprise, you can also disable telemetry which does appear to work.
api 11y ago
You mean this will chase MS out of enterprise? Awesome! It means we don't have to support them anymore! (Supporting Windows is 10X more work than all other platforms combined due to stupid "can't reproduce here" problems on rotted and unpatched Windows machines and general Windows driver API hell. I am including Android and less-commonly-used OSS operating systems like FreeBSD and OpenBSD.)
- blackbeard 11y ago
  I feel your pain. This is my life.
  - api 11y ago
    If you're ever in Irvine, California, e-mail support@zerotier.com for a beer.

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ultramancool 11y ago

There's actually some GPOs to turn this stuff off. I'm running Enterprise on my desktop... the problem is that many of them don't work or only disable the UI, but still connect out to random Microsoft servers. How the hell does Microsoft think that's acceptable in an "Enterprise" product?

uxcn 11y ago
This was something I was wondering about. It seems like any company that has proprietary data to protect or privacy laws to comply with (most) don't even have a choice. I personally don't use Windows a lot, but even knowing that information was being sent out by default would be a deal breaker for me. Can you give some examples of the stuff that does actually have switches?
- ultramancool 11y ago
  > Can you give some examples of the stuff that does actually have switches? Yeah, if you disable the Search thing in the start menu for example, it _does_ stop sending your queries to Bing. That switch does work. It just sends a bunch of tracking info instead. On Enterprise, you can also disable telemetry which does appear to work.

api 11y ago

You mean this will chase MS out of enterprise? Awesome! It means we don't have to support them anymore! (Supporting Windows is 10X more work than all other platforms combined due to stupid "can't reproduce here" problems on rotted and unpatched Windows machines and general Windows driver API hell. I am including Android and less-commonly-used OSS operating systems like FreeBSD and OpenBSD.)

blackbeard 11y ago
I feel your pain. This is my life.
- api 11y ago
  If you're ever in Irvine, California, e-mail support@zerotier.com for a beer.