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Ok, ok. How about these buttons? [Select] [DO!] [Context] You're right of course. At some point a trade off has to be made among usability, discover-abi

Ok, ok. How about these buttons? [Select] [DO!] [Context] You're right of course. At some point a trade off has to be made among usability, discover-ability, and simplicity. (Pick any two). Adding another button reduces simplicity, but enhances the other two. Apple's one-button mouse—at the other extreme—makes things simple and discoverable, but often not as useable as I'd like. I still don't know how OSX's equivalent to Windows' [Alt] key access to menu items (does it exist?)

cdcarter 11y ago
I think the closest is Cmd-Shift-/.
e12e 11y ago
I do think using three buttons are good -- I'm not so happy with the classic "Xerox Parc/Smalltalk" layout -- I'd prefer to have a button on the thumb (like many logitech mice have) and a scroll-wheel in the middle that's not a button. Which leaves us with a bit of a problem for touch screens. While it might be ok to demand users to learn one and two-finger touch -- three finger touch might be going a bit too far... [ed: And for those that want to remap buttons, but avoid the bloated logitech software, in windows I recommend: http://www.highrez.co.uk/downloads/XMouseButtonControl.htm http://www.highrez.co.uk/downloads/XMouseButtonControl.htm In X it's of course much easier (or more difficult, depending on your point of view): https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard/MultimediaKeys https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard/MultimediaKeys ]
- function_seven 11y ago
  I used to use an MX Revolution mouse[1] that had what you describe. Multiple thumb buttons, that amazing flywheel scroll wheel, that other thumb wheel. I loved that mouse. Unfortunately I love trackballs more than mice now, and am severely limited in my choices. The Trackman is nice, and has a couple of extra buttons, but it would be so nice to have something close to what I had with that Revolution mouse. In response to your comment above, no I wasn't being ironic :). I'm sure I've seen similar schemes before that informed my "idea", though. [1] http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Revolution-Cordless-Laser-Mouse/dp/B000HCT12O http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Revolution-Cordless-Laser-Mou...

cdcarter 11y ago

I think the closest is Cmd-Shift-/.

e12e 11y ago

I do think using three buttons are good -- I'm not so happy with the classic "Xerox Parc/Smalltalk" layout -- I'd prefer to have a button on the thumb (like many logitech mice have) and a scroll-wheel in the middle that's not a button. Which leaves us with a bit of a problem for touch screens. While it might be ok to demand users to learn one and two-finger touch -- three finger touch might be going a bit too far... [ed: And for those that want to remap buttons, but avoid the bloated logitech software, in windows I recommend: http://www.highrez.co.uk/downloads/XMouseButtonControl.htm http://www.highrez.co.uk/downloads/XMouseButtonControl.htm In X it's of course much easier (or more difficult, depending on your point of view): https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard/MultimediaKeys https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard/MultimediaKeys ]

function_seven 11y ago
I used to use an MX Revolution mouse[1] that had what you describe. Multiple thumb buttons, that amazing flywheel scroll wheel, that other thumb wheel. I loved that mouse. Unfortunately I love trackballs more than mice now, and am severely limited in my choices. The Trackman is nice, and has a couple of extra buttons, but it would be so nice to have something close to what I had with that Revolution mouse. In response to your comment above, no I wasn't being ironic :). I'm sure I've seen similar schemes before that informed my "idea", though. [1] http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Revolution-Cordless-Laser-Mouse/dp/B000HCT12O http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Revolution-Cordless-Laser-Mou...