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Sad state of affairs, but nothing that surprising. They need to fight dirty to ensure they exist as a company in the future. As more people realise the connect

Sad state of affairs, but nothing that surprising. They need to fight dirty to ensure they exist as a company in the future. As more people realise the connection between high-sugar diets and weight gain. Tobacco V2.

matwood 11y ago
As more people realise the connection between high calorie diets and weight gain. Fixed that for you, although it should not be a novel realization.
- bbcbasic 11y ago
  Sugar specifically though. It is a cause of high calories due to it's effect of creating a high and then a crash making you hungry again. It is also addictive in itself. WHO recommend getting it below 50g, ideally 25g per day. I looked on the side of some of the staple things I consumed (milk, bread etc.) and it is tough with modern processed foods to get that low. If everyone followed the WHO recommendation then full sugar coke is out of business!
  - matwood 11y ago
    Sounds like you agree that more calories leads to weight gain. Advertisements can make people hungry also, but we do not run around saying advertising makes us fat.
  - paintrayne 11y ago
    >WHO recommend getting it below 50g, ideally 25g per day. Really? Because that is how you get into ketosis. That is not just low carb, that is ultra low carb. I think you may be mistaken. I have been in that range and it is extremely difficult.
    - bbcbasic 11y ago
      Just sugar, not carbohydrates in general. You can do it by avoiding refined foods, but you can still eat, for example 100g of oats which you wouldn't do on an atkins-style diet.
- rosser 11y ago
  It's far, far easier to end up obese on a diet high in cheap carbs than it is one high in proteins, or even fats.
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- ScottBurson 11y ago
  In fact there is substantial evidence that a sugar calorie is not the same as any other calorie -- that fructose is metabolically toxic in large doses. I recommend watching the well-known Robert Lustig video "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" [0]; if you prefer reading, here's an article [1]. To give you a TL;DR I'll quote from [1]: In animals, or at least in laboratory rats and mice, it’s clear that if the fructose hits the liver in sufficient quantity and with sufficient speed, the liver will convert much of it to fat. This apparently induces a condition known as insulin resistance [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.htm...
  - matwood 11y ago
    Lustig has an agenda and has been questioned (I feel outright debunked) numerous times on his cherry picked studies and lack of rigor. See here for a good overview. http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/ http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-ab...
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- dxhdr 11y ago
  Food has no impact on the body's metabolism. All sources of calories affect the body equally, therefore weight gain is simply calories in and calories out. I've said it out loud but it doesn't quite ring true.

matwood 11y ago

As more people realise the connection between high calorie diets and weight gain. Fixed that for you, although it should not be a novel realization.

bbcbasic 11y ago
Sugar specifically though. It is a cause of high calories due to it's effect of creating a high and then a crash making you hungry again. It is also addictive in itself. WHO recommend getting it below 50g, ideally 25g per day. I looked on the side of some of the staple things I consumed (milk, bread etc.) and it is tough with modern processed foods to get that low. If everyone followed the WHO recommendation then full sugar coke is out of business!
- matwood 11y ago
  Sounds like you agree that more calories leads to weight gain. Advertisements can make people hungry also, but we do not run around saying advertising makes us fat.
- paintrayne 11y ago
  >WHO recommend getting it below 50g, ideally 25g per day. Really? Because that is how you get into ketosis. That is not just low carb, that is ultra low carb. I think you may be mistaken. I have been in that range and it is extremely difficult.
  - bbcbasic 11y ago
    Just sugar, not carbohydrates in general. You can do it by avoiding refined foods, but you can still eat, for example 100g of oats which you wouldn't do on an atkins-style diet.
rosser 11y ago
It's far, far easier to end up obese on a diet high in cheap carbs than it is one high in proteins, or even fats.
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ScottBurson 11y ago
In fact there is substantial evidence that a sugar calorie is not the same as any other calorie -- that fructose is metabolically toxic in large doses. I recommend watching the well-known Robert Lustig video "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" [0]; if you prefer reading, here's an article [1]. To give you a TL;DR I'll quote from [1]: In animals, or at least in laboratory rats and mice, it’s clear that if the fructose hits the liver in sufficient quantity and with sufficient speed, the liver will convert much of it to fat. This apparently induces a condition known as insulin resistance [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.htm...
- matwood 11y ago
  Lustig has an agenda and has been questioned (I feel outright debunked) numerous times on his cherry picked studies and lack of rigor. See here for a good overview. http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/ http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-ab...
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dxhdr 11y ago
Food has no impact on the body's metabolism. All sources of calories affect the body equally, therefore weight gain is simply calories in and calories out. I've said it out loud but it doesn't quite ring true.