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I agree. I have yet to encounter a truly bad interaction on Github. And what if I did? Learning to ignore things that could unreasonably sour your mood is a va

I agree. I have yet to encounter a truly bad interaction on Github. And what if I did? Learning to ignore things that could unreasonably sour your mood is a valuable skill in life anyway. Life itself doesn't really have a code like proposed.

anon3_ 11y ago
> And what if I did? Learning to ignore things that could unreasonably sour your mood is a valuable skill in life anyway. Life itself doesn't really have a code like proposed. De-escalated depending on the context of the situation. Code of Conduct defines problems and could turn anything funny, innocent, etc. into an excuse to ruin someone's life. 9/10 times it's someone who doesn't program (an Adria Richards, Shanley Kane) who will be attacking someone who actually contributes.
- cmsj 11y ago
  -1. Implies lines of code is the only possible contribution one can make.
  - anon3_ 11y ago
    Do you expect everyone to water down thoughts with a bullet-point list of qualifiers to have a point? The people causing the social outrage debacles, often can't program. They're complete outsiders who think they can use social ideas and useful idiots as a vehicle for their own benefit. Many QAers and PM's can or have programmed some, at one point, or else they wouldn't understand the domain of the problem. Most of the trouble crowd tend to be social marketers and so-called "evangelists" on twitter. They're not programmers. These people leading the vanguard of your code of conduct movements - they're not even really tech. They're happy when you invent these new job positions to give them a paycheck.
    - cmsj 11y ago
      You seem to be continuing to operate under the assumption that only people who can code, are capable of contributing to a project. There are so many things that can be done to contribute to a project, that don't involve writing a single line of code. Testing, evangelism, documentation, support, etc, etc. Why should attempting to improve the culture of a project, be any different?
  - 13thLetter 11y ago
    What do the Shanley Kanes of the world contribute?
cmsj 11y ago
The ability to ignore troubling things might be said to be a privilege of the powerful and secure.
- Daishiman 11y ago
  Being able to report GitHub issues freely already kind of puts you there.
resu_nimda 11y ago
Have you guys missed the numerous controversial issues that consistently come up around this? I really don't understand the viewpoint that these guys are just coming out with a rule book apropos of nothing except their desire to nanny and police people. Is it possible that you're a part of the class that, yes, doesn't experience the negative aspects of the community, and thus has no empathy for those that do? Ah, but yes, "that's life, suck it up" - right? Stiff upper lip, don't be a whiner, I didn't need empathy to get where I am, and so on and so forth. While that may always be good advice to follow, personally I find that attitude an excuse to be callous and lazy. Actually taking the time to understand other people and their issues, truly trying to get outside of your own biases and experiences and put yourself in their shoes, is more impressive to me.

anon3_ 11y ago

> And what if I did? Learning to ignore things that could unreasonably sour your mood is a valuable skill in life anyway. Life itself doesn't really have a code like proposed. De-escalated depending on the context of the situation. Code of Conduct defines problems and could turn anything funny, innocent, etc. into an excuse to ruin someone's life. 9/10 times it's someone who doesn't program (an Adria Richards, Shanley Kane) who will be attacking someone who actually contributes.

cmsj 11y ago
-1. Implies lines of code is the only possible contribution one can make.
- anon3_ 11y ago
  Do you expect everyone to water down thoughts with a bullet-point list of qualifiers to have a point? The people causing the social outrage debacles, often can't program. They're complete outsiders who think they can use social ideas and useful idiots as a vehicle for their own benefit. Many QAers and PM's can or have programmed some, at one point, or else they wouldn't understand the domain of the problem. Most of the trouble crowd tend to be social marketers and so-called "evangelists" on twitter. They're not programmers. These people leading the vanguard of your code of conduct movements - they're not even really tech. They're happy when you invent these new job positions to give them a paycheck.
  - cmsj 11y ago
    You seem to be continuing to operate under the assumption that only people who can code, are capable of contributing to a project. There are so many things that can be done to contribute to a project, that don't involve writing a single line of code. Testing, evangelism, documentation, support, etc, etc. Why should attempting to improve the culture of a project, be any different?
- 13thLetter 11y ago
  What do the Shanley Kanes of the world contribute?

cmsj 11y ago

The ability to ignore troubling things might be said to be a privilege of the powerful and secure.

Daishiman 11y ago
Being able to report GitHub issues freely already kind of puts you there.

resu_nimda 11y ago

Have you guys missed the numerous controversial issues that consistently come up around this? I really don't understand the viewpoint that these guys are just coming out with a rule book apropos of nothing except their desire to nanny and police people. Is it possible that you're a part of the class that, yes, doesn't experience the negative aspects of the community, and thus has no empathy for those that do? Ah, but yes, "that's life, suck it up" - right? Stiff upper lip, don't be a whiner, I didn't need empathy to get where I am, and so on and so forth. While that may always be good advice to follow, personally I find that attitude an excuse to be callous and lazy. Actually taking the time to understand other people and their issues, truly trying to get outside of your own biases and experiences and put yourself in their shoes, is more impressive to me.