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I've traveled in countries where I fired up the Yelp app, and it had no results anywhere in the country. But Google maps brought up restaurants etc just fine. S
by klipt 11y ago
I've traveled in countries where I fired up the Yelp app, and it had no results anywhere in the country. But Google maps brought up restaurants etc just fine. So I'm pretty sure Google has data sources other than Yelp. Remember they also acquired Zagat a while back.
- paganel 11y agoI've worked for a Yelp-lookalike website in an Eastern European country, sometime in 2010. The whole thing cost my employer a lot of money to get started, think programmers' and sales people's salaries, to say nothing of the people that we had actually outside the office, walking the streets of our ten-or-so biggest cities and trying to document each and every local business. And then, towards the end of 2010-early 2011, Google decided to enter the game with its Google Places. They had no people on the ground to collect businesses' addresses and make sure that the advertised phone numbers were actually correct. But, surprise, surprise, in a matter of less than 6 months all of this data was on Google Places. At the time I was actually telling my boss: "hey! at some point the EU is bound to do something! They cannot just rip people off like this". It "only" took the EU ~6years.
- eru 11y agoSorry, I don't follow. How did Google rip anyone off here?
- confluence 11y agoScrapped the data most likely
- Dylan16807 11y agoWell, countries have generally decided you can't copyright factual information, and they did that for a reason.
- confluence 11y agoI didn't say it was illegal. They just didn't do the groundwork. And I'm sure copying maps is illegal. Place information? Hmmm. Maybe it should be too.
- Dylan16807 11y ago>I'm sure copying maps is illegal. You can't directly copy the artistry, things like label sizing and placement, but you can copy every road and city. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_street https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_street >I didn't say it was illegal. I'm not commenting directly on the legality. I'm trying to refer to the deeper reasons that lead it to be legal. If it's truly ripping someone off to copy facts that they painstakingly collected through their sweat of the brow, why is there a specific exemption from copyright?
- tomp 11y agoThat's not copyright. You can still enforce a licence on the data you provide. E.g. Exchanges do this all the time with market price data.
- Dylan16807 11y agoSure, you can make licenses, but if someone gets a copy outside of the licensed channel, you have no recourse.
- tomp 11y agoNot sure about that... In general, if you buy a stolen car, it's still stolen, and while you won't be held criminally responsible, you'll still lose your money. I guess it's the same with data licences.
- Dylan16807 11y agoIt's not really a license on the data. Data licenses are based on copyright laws, and grant permission under them. Instead it's a contract with a nondisclosure clause, and contracts only bind the participants. It's also not a trade secret, with access being sold so openly.
- eru 11y agoGoogle respects robots.txt.
- confluence 11y agoI'm sure you say you do.