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Hyper – Hypervisor-agnostic Docker

56 points by laamalif 11y ago

nogox 11y ago
It also runs on Mac! https://hyper.sh/blog/post/2015/07/30/running-containers-from-mac-os-x.html https://hyper.sh/blog/post/2015/07/30/running-containers-fro...
jzila 11y ago
Previous coverage: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9622325 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9622325
x5n1 11y ago
i could see this going into docker itself... good job!
turingbook 11y ago
I am proudly noticed that it is developed in China.
- honest_joe 11y ago
  That's why i would not want to use it. If it would be controlled by non-china company outside of china and programmed by chinese programmers then YES i would be interested. But your government can't be trusted as well as your companies can't be trusted. Sorry.
  - gonvaled 11y ago
    As opposed to what? MS? Google? Amazon? Apple? Backdoors, anyone?
    - honest_joe 11y ago
      As opposed to any other non-iconic giant US corporation.
tw04 11y ago
>Hypervisor agnostic >Requires: Docker 1.5 or later QEMU 2.0 or later Xen 4.5 and VT enabled host (for Xen support) So... not hypervisor agnostic. edit: I realize it may not be the most popular among the hackernews crowd, but VMware is by far, not even remotely close, the most widely deployed hypervisor in the mid to large enterprise market segment. The graph looks similar to Windows on the desktop numbers. To claim hypervisor agnostic without VMware support is like claiming your desktop app is OS agnostic but doesn't support Windows.
- scprodigy 11y ago
  Why not?
  - wmf 11y ago
    No (explicit) VMware, Hyper-V, or bhyve support.
    - scprodigy 11y ago
      Well, Docker still doesn't support all linux distros, so it doesn't run anywhere.
- dmourati 11y ago
  " VMware is by far, not even remotely close, the most widely deployed hypervisor in the mid to large enterprise market segment" Citation? Depending on how you count AWS, I'd say Xen is much larger than VMware. https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/maintenance-2015-03/ https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/maintenance-2015-03/
  - tw04 11y ago
    AWS is a service provider. I specifically said mid to large enterprise segment. Since IDC tends not to give their reports away the only thing "public" I can find in a quick search: http://www.bobsguide.com/guide/news/2014/Apr/4/server-virtualization-continues-to-grow-in-emea-but-mega-datacenters-are-changing-the-game.html http://www.bobsguide.com/guide/news/2014/Apr/4/server-virtua... As for my anecdote: out of the 20 fortune 500 companies I work with, the Xen/KVM market share is literally under 1%. Not a single deployed instance beyond a couple corner cases of Citrix for small VDI workloads. There are a few looking at openstack, but they're still science experiments at this point, and not their production enterprise deployments.
Benjamin_Dobell 11y ago
Interesting project, but... Mature: Yes, just plug-&-play Err, the first commit was May 29, 2015, and the project certainly isn't widely deployed. Keep up the good work though.
nnx 11y ago
Interesting, it sounds similar to what AWS is using to power the new Lambda platform securely.
viraptor 11y ago
I couldn't find it in the documentation, but am I right that this only works with full images docker-style, rather than mapped host filesystem? (like novm could)
- mbreese 11y ago
  I'm not sure about Hyper, but I know with qemu-KVM, there is a way to mount host directories inside the VM. It uses the 9p virtio filesystem. Clever use of this with docker volumes could do the trick. I'm not sure what the performance would be though. If you have an NFS mount on the host, it might be better to just directly mount the NFS share on the VM as well.

56 points by laamalif 11y ago

nogox 11y ago

It also runs on Mac! https://hyper.sh/blog/post/2015/07/30/running-containers-from-mac-os-x.html https://hyper.sh/blog/post/2015/07/30/running-containers-fro...

jzila 11y ago

Previous coverage: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9622325 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9622325

x5n1 11y ago

i could see this going into docker itself... good job!

turingbook 11y ago

I am proudly noticed that it is developed in China.

honest_joe 11y ago
That's why i would not want to use it. If it would be controlled by non-china company outside of china and programmed by chinese programmers then YES i would be interested. But your government can't be trusted as well as your companies can't be trusted. Sorry.
- gonvaled 11y ago
  As opposed to what? MS? Google? Amazon? Apple? Backdoors, anyone?
  - honest_joe 11y ago
    As opposed to any other non-iconic giant US corporation.

tw04 11y ago

>Hypervisor agnostic >Requires: Docker 1.5 or later QEMU 2.0 or later Xen 4.5 and VT enabled host (for Xen support) So... not hypervisor agnostic. edit: I realize it may not be the most popular among the hackernews crowd, but VMware is by far, not even remotely close, the most widely deployed hypervisor in the mid to large enterprise market segment. The graph looks similar to Windows on the desktop numbers. To claim hypervisor agnostic without VMware support is like claiming your desktop app is OS agnostic but doesn't support Windows.

scprodigy 11y ago
Why not?
- wmf 11y ago
  No (explicit) VMware, Hyper-V, or bhyve support.
  - scprodigy 11y ago
    Well, Docker still doesn't support all linux distros, so it doesn't run anywhere.
dmourati 11y ago
" VMware is by far, not even remotely close, the most widely deployed hypervisor in the mid to large enterprise market segment" Citation? Depending on how you count AWS, I'd say Xen is much larger than VMware. https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/maintenance-2015-03/ https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/maintenance-2015-03/
- tw04 11y ago
  AWS is a service provider. I specifically said mid to large enterprise segment. Since IDC tends not to give their reports away the only thing "public" I can find in a quick search: http://www.bobsguide.com/guide/news/2014/Apr/4/server-virtualization-continues-to-grow-in-emea-but-mega-datacenters-are-changing-the-game.html http://www.bobsguide.com/guide/news/2014/Apr/4/server-virtua... As for my anecdote: out of the 20 fortune 500 companies I work with, the Xen/KVM market share is literally under 1%. Not a single deployed instance beyond a couple corner cases of Citrix for small VDI workloads. There are a few looking at openstack, but they're still science experiments at this point, and not their production enterprise deployments.

Benjamin_Dobell 11y ago

Interesting project, but... Mature: Yes, just plug-&-play Err, the first commit was May 29, 2015, and the project certainly isn't widely deployed. Keep up the good work though.

nnx 11y ago

Interesting, it sounds similar to what AWS is using to power the new Lambda platform securely.

viraptor 11y ago

I couldn't find it in the documentation, but am I right that this only works with full images docker-style, rather than mapped host filesystem? (like novm could)

mbreese 11y ago
I'm not sure about Hyper, but I know with qemu-KVM, there is a way to mount host directories inside the VM. It uses the 9p virtio filesystem. Clever use of this with docker volumes could do the trick. I'm not sure what the performance would be though. If you have an NFS mount on the host, it might be better to just directly mount the NFS share on the VM as well.