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Part of it was, most of it wasn't. And its really not relevant: Tons of gold and economic value that was extracted from the local Spaniards, local French, local English, local Germanics weren't given to their feudal lords voluntar
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2y ago
> which appear to be pro-squatting? As the constitutional right to housing is being basically circumvented through just not protecting that right, yeah, squatting seems to be the best way to protect that right. I have a good handle of pr
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2y ago
Its crazy how people downvote uncomfortable info and statistics as if it makes them go away...
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2y ago
> The housing market, however, should be big enough and robust enough to allow for some of that occurring. All of these are just wishful thinking based on non-scientific economic hullabaloo that was developed in the past 200 years. They
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2y ago
Yes, reading it made me realize that it was far worse than what I thought too.
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2y ago
> Bringing back a king, who was likely literate and learned A king would know about his society as much as how much do the Ivy League educated, WASP US presidents would know about the actual US society.
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2y ago
> were basically peasants in their lifetimes, not grand or interesting people What are you saying - the lives of ordinary people are the holy grail in archaeology and history as they are more difficult to investigate and construct. A kin
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2y ago
> I live in a country of people with diverse views. I feel it's ignorant to assume that I'm speaking on behalf of the majority of my fellow citizens. You are speaking on behalf of the American mentality that you subscribe to. T
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2y ago
People dont like to be the gentrifier. In digital nomad forums or 'investment' forums the reaction to any news about gentrification is the same - downvoting, denial, blaming someone else. Most blame the locals for letting it happe
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2y ago
> I'm merely pointing out that you're assuming ignorance simply because I have a different opinion to you Yes. You have a different opinion than me and the majority of Spaniards. Despite that you think that you can make stateme
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2y ago
> That's why in decent countries you can get them curb-stomped and their teeth kicked-in for invading a property. Yeah. Decent countries like the US, and you end up with 99% of the population being unable to buy a house. https:
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> I’m not from the US. Even if you are not, your philosophy seems to be from there. Works out to the same. > I spent 2 years living in Spain Yeah that should have given you the past, present and future knowledge of all things about Sp
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> Allowing occupation of vacant properties by squatters because there isn't enough housing supply is like allowing stealing food from farms because there isn’t enough food supply Love these religious-sounding sermons. Im telling wha
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2y ago
If only. Spain declared all Native Americans Spanish subjects with equal rights in 1519. Then they proceeded to hang in public any governor who violated those rights. That's why there are 7 million 'pure blooded' (whatever th
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2y ago
> Making renting riskier doesn't inherently make property less expensive It did that here. > A more likely outcome You are literally making up stuff and preaching a false reality as you go. No wonder how the US housing market got
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2y ago
> Again, the comment you responded to explains This kind of thing baffles me. Im telling what is happening here. A guy on the internet refers to another on the internet who 'explains' to me that what is happening where I am in
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> No, it absolutely does not Of course it does. At any given point in time there is a definite amount of wealth that exists in the world. Back in the stone age at any given point in time, there was a definite value of all the wealth that
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> The story you’re replying to happened in the United States. I haven't seen any indicator of that at the time. Your comment does not mention anything in it about the US. Everyone is reading as if it happened in Spain. I don't
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> This is such an obviously false premise that I don’t understand how you even arrived at it I didn't arrive at anything. Its the actual reality of what happens here on the ground. You not being able to imagine something like that b
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2y ago
> Or not to invest into it in the first places which results in even lower supply of housing long-term Even better - the state can easily construct subsidized housing and make housing even more available. No need to rely on private profi
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2y ago
> The actual outcome The actual outcome is that the policy does force people to use their houses and increase the available rental houses. > ordinary middle-class people. You seem to have meant 'working-class'. Outside the U
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2y ago
Who are these 'Spanish new' people... Like someone else said, its debatable whether these people were the 'small property owner' you speak about - as okupas scout the places and people before occupying and occupying the
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> And what will the buyers do with the apartments? Rent them? Yes. > This is as nonsensical as the proposals Its not nonsensical. Its what is happening. Use it or lose it. Works. Find a good tenant, rent it for decades - like how it i
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Even worse, now the digital nomad phenomenon is increasing rents - ~19% of the demand in the rent market in Madrid in 2023 is from foreigners. As a result, the locals learned the phrase 'digital nomad' and they are now fighting ba
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> Speaking as a Dane, this kind kind of economically illiterate leftist lawlessness is an important reason why Spain is poorer both poorer and has a worse welfare state than Denmark. If only Spain could profit from helping murder brown p
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> That a country with high unemployment has the nr of workers in the construction sector as the major limitation in construction of new housing seems very implausible The rest of the world is not the US, and people don't have to wor
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The difference is that those occupation friendly laws work and force real estate owners to actually rent out their properties rather than let them sit empty to appreciate value. Whereas the ideas of a person that only exist in a book are ju
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> No, I got it. I just think that would mainly mean investors exit the market. Great. They should get the hell out asap.
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> However, there is a huge propaganda campaign here in Spain, where TV shows talk constantly about trespassing Yes, the right-wing channels have been screaming about it for 1-2 years now. Interestingly, their tirade started about the tim
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2y ago
Yep. Those policies that force the real estate owners to use their properties instead of letting them sit empty and appreciate for profit like in the US are ridiculous. The not-ridiculous policy is allowing them to cripple the entire societ
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