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zedshaw
16y ago
But, it tastes so good! No! You can't have my coffee! :-)
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zedshaw
16y ago
Yeah, a lot of eye health seems to be voodoo bullshit. But, you got any links to references on this? It might help people who have the problem.
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zedshaw
16y ago
Unless you have specific support for that, as in a special chair/desk setup, that's horrible advice. I'd almost like to see what you're doing since I can't imagine it being comfortable. You got a picture maybe?
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zedshaw
16y ago
Hey, just from what you're saying it sounds like your wrists have gone a little too far. If you have constant pain in your hands from typing, and you can't play guitar, and this fact is consuming your life, then you should do something abo
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zedshaw
16y ago
This is how people take advantage of you I'm afraid. There's a class of member of every community that knows you try to take each comment and person at their face value, and then uses that against you to shape your opinion. I know this, be
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zedshaw
16y ago
Why would anyone read that far into the article. Here's how you comment on one of my articles if you want to karma whore with the neckbeard crew: 1. Skim through my post to see if there's any inflamatory headings, if there are stop there a
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zedshaw
16y ago
It's not necessarily the money, it's actually that it's too early in the development. Nowhere in the post did I say this was to see how fast Mongrel2 was. It was to make sure I wasn't screwing things up. To do that I don't need an EC2 cl
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zedshaw
16y ago
Something that people around here seem to assume is that there's no malice in the things people post here. I think it's their inability to recognize politics when they see it. To me, if I know that Dave intentionally named an entire softw
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zedshaw
16y ago
A lot of programmers have a very odd aesthetic that I don't necessarily agree with. I think it comes from some misplaced inferiority complex or something, but their code always has to be "impressive". It can't just work and be simple, it
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zedshaw
16y ago
So, in the interest of full discloser Dave, let's make sure everyone knows you named a web server after me: http://github.com/KirinDave/fuzed You and TPW named it "F U Zed" which to me is damn rude. Based on that, I believe everyone shoul
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zedshaw
16y ago
You keep using this word "strawman" but the way you use it is the way Scarecrow would use it on the Yellow Brick Road. Otherwise, very good reasoned argument. I'll be trying some stuff out and you can pitch in comments along this vein then
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zedshaw
16y ago
I'm actually glad that you stopped spreading your FUD and started looking at it realistically. Thank you for that. But look at it from my perspective. You seem like the one spreading bile and being obnoxious because I come to that threa
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zedshaw
16y ago
You know what I find troubling about your behavior on this thread? It's just so weirdly manipulative. I gotta think you have like 40% stock invested in Epoll, Inc. or something. You make wild claims about what I'm saying that aren't true
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zedshaw
16y ago
Exactly, there's no concept of confounding at all. You use "real world tests" (whatever the hell that is) when you have an actual specific setup to test. You use a small model experiment like this to test one specific thing like poll vs.
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zedshaw
16y ago
"Your hypothesis is that web servers have the majority of their fds active most of the time," Aha! Totally wrong. My hypothesis has not been that at all . You totally didn't even understand the hypothesis, and I stated it very clearly.
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zedshaw
16y ago
The original article had the link to the code so don't even try to imply that I was hiding jack squat. He hasn't nailed shit, it's the same test epoll proponents have used for years . It's not a "localhost" test, it's a test that makes a
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zedshaw
16y ago
I'm shouting you down because you're a FUD slinging troll. Very first thing you did was immediately reply to every branch of the comments with your agenda. I actually have no idea what your problem is, since I'm just presenting some infor
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zedshaw
16y ago
Basic social norms also involve not saying ruthless comments you wouldn't say to my face.
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16y ago
Testing this on real live servers is confounding. Man you guys really don't get this. If you want to test epoll and poll over file descriptors you test that. You don't test a billion other things in a network server. That confounds your
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zedshaw
16y ago
Yeah, 'cause there's no way I'll be able to test a real web server that I actually wrote based on this small test. This is a small test to test one specific thing, doing more would confound the test. Confounding. Look it up. Incidentally
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16y ago
Yes, nobody seems to get confounding at all. I'm testing poll vs. epoll on selecting active file descriptors to compare their performance. I'm not testing anything else, not claiming anything else. To then test that with a full on server
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zedshaw
16y ago
Thank you. I very much appreciate your comments.
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zedshaw
16y ago
You know jack squat about statistics. That's basically how I summarize your statement. You don't have a mean, median, mode, or standard deviation in your "10% 40%". You don't understand confounding and want to test the performance of pol
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zedshaw
16y ago
Exactly, nobody knows because they've been operating under the assumption that epoll is always faster so they never looked. Now I've got some evicence that epoll isn't faster, and in fact it's a wash at 40% "utilization", which is sort of r
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zedshaw
16y ago
The touted benefits of epoll are mostly bullshit, since it was advocated as being O(1) and frequently mentioned as being O(1) and always faster than poll by others. In fact, right after mentioning that I thought epoll wasn't faster the fi
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zedshaw
16y ago
Exactly, this is why I was curious about the platitude that epoll wins all the time.
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16y ago
There's nothing in anything I've said that disagrees with your assertion that regular web server (not internet servers) have lots of idle connections. What I've been saying all along is something very simple. If the ATR > 0.6, poll win
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16y ago
Interesting, you're like the 3rd or 4th person who's mentioned hysteresis.
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16y ago
If the test harness is wrong than every other test that everyone doing epoll comparisons with poll has done is wrong. This is the one they've all been using. So, either you write your own test to evaluate the same thing, without confoundi
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16y ago
There's the pipetest.c file that everyone uses (since 2002) linked off that blog post, but I got tired and went to sleep. Today I'm crafting how I ran the tests and releasing all the code and asking everyone to test my results. I am comple
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