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yters
6y ago
Right, if invading the nation's capital building for a few hours is considered insurrection, then much more so is taking over the part of Portland around the mayor's office, along with property destruction and violence towards oth
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yters
6y ago
Neither did I. In both cases the police should have shutdown the protests once things reached a certain point, regardless of cause.
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yters
6y ago
How is this different than the very large and often violent protests that have been taking place around the country in major cities, often in front of legislative areas, yet law enforcement has by and large allowed the property damage and v
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yters
6y ago
Sorry for offending you. It is just incorrect to say only two paragraphs of the paper deal with ID. From my read through, almost the entire paper is reliant upon various ID literature and arguments, which is called out explicitly. It is
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yters
6y ago
It is really not clear to me from that wiki article you posted that Sanford's view has been refuted. I took a look at Kimura's paper, and it seems the wiki author either didn't read it or didn't understand Kimura's
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yters
6y ago
You should probably read more of the article to get a better idea of what the authors are arguing. They are making a fine tuning argument like Barrow and Tipler. Barrow and Tipler wrote a whole book on the fine turning of cosmological con
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yters
6y ago
To elaborate on my comment, per our original question whether there are respectable scientists who hold non status quo positions for scientific reasons, my example of Sanford as a YEC who holds the position for scientific reasons seems to s
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yters
6y ago
You don't consider the pill part of the Overton window? It was introduced largely due to an ulterior agenda of population control and eugenics, and seems to have furthered that goal effectively.
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yters
6y ago
One reason may be that there is sort of an existential question hanging at the edge of moral actions, namely does anything really matter? Moral action is the epitome of the belief that at least something matters, and matters a whole lot.
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yters
6y ago
Overton window is pretty effective in some ways. Just look at how much of what is taken for granted nowadays as the moral high ground was considered grossly immoral and unthinkable just a generation ago, e.g. gay marriage. This was largel
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yters
6y ago
I used to donate a lot, but have lost trust when I've seen reports on how much money is wasted by groups. Now I tend to donate directly to someone or group that I personally know and/or have worked with.
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yters
6y ago
To elaborate on my comment, if you've read the paper, they have a large section devoted to fine tuning, intelligent design, and the surrounding criticisms and responses, all with explicity references to the main authors, such as Dembsk
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yters
6y ago
It seems like you are responding to something other than I said.
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yters
6y ago
So what do you conclude per our discussion?
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yters
6y ago
John Sanford is one I know of. He is inventor of the gene gun and his work on population genetics convinced him that the genome must be devolving, something he called genetic entropy. This led him to reject atheism and adopt YEC.
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yters
6y ago
I don't follow why hiding references and names should matter, if that is even what was done. Shouldn't the content of the paper be paramount? It looks like a paper was accepted based on its own merits and then disowned when the
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Next Steps for AI
(venturebeat.com)
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yters
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I think there exist objective standards of good argumentation, and any viewpoint that makes an honest attempt to abide by said standards should get a fair hearing, despite what people may think about the conclusion and consequences. Much o
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yters
6y ago
Recent one I saw: https://retractionwatch.com/2020/10/07/elsevier-journal-disa...
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yters
6y ago
Perhaps, although I see people claim the latter when it seems they are more rejecting a position or conclusion merely because they already disagree with it, or are worried about implications of the argument.
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yters
6y ago
Yes, if that is the reason, but not if their work is rejected merely if it is YEC. I recently saw a paper get accepted by a biology journal, and then rejected because the editors found out the authors were associated with intelligent design
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yters
6y ago
If a YEC can assemble a good argument that fits the journal's standards, they should be able to publish. Seems simple.
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To publish or not should be based on cogency of argument, not whether the subject matter is popular or not. So if YEC can make a good argument, then they should have the opportunity to publish.
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yters
6y ago
What if the cranks gain power because you censor them?
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It's worthwhile to develop both rhetoric and logic. Such people will not go away because you don't like them, and certainly not if you censor them. How do you think the Protestant reformation happened in the first place?
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If the view is easy to persuasively debunk, why not? Will use a smidgeon of an expert's time and help a lot of people. If the view is not easy to debunk, maybe it is worth an extended discussion? Seems win win either way.
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yters
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Irony alert!!!
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Good thing people in authority never use their power for evil.
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Why would coronavirus vaccines be any more problematic than any other vaccine? If powers that be want to slip special gunk in the coronavirus vaccine, they can just as easily do that for flu shots or any other mandatory vaccine out there.
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6y ago
I enjoyed homeschooling much more than public school. Both contain subjects that seem irrelevant, but with homeschool I could knock all that out quickly and move onto my favorite activities of reading, coding and playing outside. Then I w
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