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> Intelligence is closely related to the concept of attractiveness and gravitas. Interesting. I wonder why you make this connection. Do you know? Your choice of definition seems to be what I would call "perception of intelligence&qu
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2y ago
To continue my earlier comment... I prefer not to call an LLM "intelligent" much less "outrageously intelligent". Why? The main reason is communication clarity -- and by communication I mean the notion of a sender commun
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2y ago
> I reacted negatively to the idea earlier that agency should be considered an aspect of intelligence. In the hopes of clarifying any misunderstandings of what I mean... I said "agent" in Russell's sense -- a system with g
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2y ago
Yikes, maybe we can take a step back? I'm not sure where this is coming from, frankly. One anodyne summary of my comment above would be: > Let's think and communicate more clearly regarding intelligence. Stuart Russell offers a
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2y ago
I regularly pushback against casual uses of the word “intelligence”. First, there is no objective dividing line. It is a matter of degree relative to something else. Any language that suggests otherwise should be refined or ejected from o
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2y ago
The answer to too much exaggeration about AI from various angles is _not_ more exaggeration. I get the frustration, but exaggerated ranting isn’t intellectually honest nor effective. The AI + software development ecosystem and demographics
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2y ago
A follow up idea: Don’t forget we modelers are still in a phase that might be characterized as “shifting mindsets”. The capability to model is getting steadily better, but I don’t think the practice of modeling is anywhere close to maturity
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2y ago
I don’t disagree with this criticism, but it also illustrates a common pattern where modelers tend to attack each other’s work. This criticism is somewhat inevitable because all models are flawed in some way, and reasonable people can disag
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2y ago
What you say has a lot of truth. And yet, these kinds of models are still useful, provided a broader range of models is also available and socialized. This touches on a key point: just because we can predict something doesn’t mean we should
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2y ago
Thanks. From the linked page I only see a marketing page that sells the general ideas. It looks like the common pattern where a consultancy sells their expertise, perhaps with a differentiating advantage that their analysis is backed by a q
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2y ago
A fun read. Everyone has their breaking point… > Naturally, instead of figuring out what library made a breaking change and spending four hours running git bisect, I decided to throw nearly a decade of muscle-memory and workflow refineme
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2y ago
True. I'll add a few points: - Statistically, more models tends to be better (in the same sense that more information is better) under the assumption that people can tell better from worse. - I like how you talk about _applying_ models
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2y ago
I get your point of view. But I'm intentionally trying to focus on prediction. There are ways to track ownership of entities and relationships. There are ways to quantify how contracts are awarded, the results, and the impacts. These a
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2y ago
The solution to a bad model is more models :). I'm joking but serious. "All models are wrong, but some are useful."
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2y ago
It depends on "good for who" and over what time scale. My dominant model is this: the core of the Trump administration is most interested in remaining in power and building connections. So they do whatever works to garner favor. T
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2y ago
I'm looking for predictive economic models out in the open. I want to see the underlying assumptions and experiment. I'm not even picky about the kind of model: it could be a relatively simple linear regression model, a systems dy
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2y ago
1. If an outside-the-system observer cannot detect any flaws in what a RNG outputs, does the outsider have any basis for claiming a lack of randomness? Practically speaking, randomness is a matter of prediction based on what you know. 2. AI
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2y ago
Ah, the pendulum / cyclic metaphor. It gets trotted out way too often IMO. The pendulum metaphor fails often; here are some examples where it cannot make sensible predictions: species level extinction; major technological shifts; the o
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2y ago
> On the level where the learning is done and knowledge is represented in these networks there is no evidence anyone really understands how it works. It is hard to assess the comment above. Depending on what you mean, it is incorrect, in
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2y ago
Nothing to do with it? You certainly don’t mean that. The software running an LLM is causally involved. Perhaps you can explain your point in a different way? Related: would you claim that the physics of neurons has nothing to do with human
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2y ago
To be clear, the topic of philosophical zombies has to do with consciousness.
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2y ago
> But the inferences of the resulting neural nets is not an algorithm. Incorrect. The comment above confuses some concepts. Perhaps this will help: consider a PRNG implemented in software. It is an algorithm. The question of the utility
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2y ago
I for one (along with many thinkers) define intelligence as the extent to which an agent can solve a particular task. I choose the definition to separate it from issues involving consciousness. Both matter of course.
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2y ago
> The more I look at it, the more I see the concept of general intelligence as a nonsensical one. "nonsensical"? This isn't the right word, is it? The idea of general intelligence is certainly sensical, in the sense that i
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2y ago
> I would just chuck the idea of general intelligence out the window. It seems to give us nothing anyway. This was the part that I think is exaggerated / overstated.
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2y ago
Seems to me that the SO moderation level was a design decision. The pros and cons were consciously weighed. As for me, SO found a nice balance, since I dislike the common failure modes of so many other fora.
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2y ago
I think the claim above simply redefines “quality platform” with the benefit of hindsight.
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2y ago
An overreaction and/or exaggeration I think. How hard have you looked at the problem? Without a doubt, there are common aspects of many kinds of intelligence.
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2y ago
Using various metaphors carefully and fluidly is key. No one is sufficient. Not this one, nor any other. I say: go back to basics. One good foundational point is dispelling confusion and conflation around "intelligence". So many p
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2y ago
Worth noting that frequency space is often considered one dimensional. Adding the phase is what gives the other dimension.
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