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3y ago
> Don't Reddit and Twitter email you when you get a reply -- or at least have the option to get an email? Yes, but you would have to check a completely different service to see whether you got any replies. Most people would probabl
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3y ago
> Are there other use cases now for Usenet nowadays? Maybe not usenet itself, but NNTP gateways can be used to browse mailing lists.
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3y ago
From what I've read, they're transferring multiple petabytes of data a day between different backbone NNTP server farms.
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3y ago
> Most ISPs didn't provide much information if they had a NNTP server users could use, and NNTP readers didn't come with most users computers. HTTP did. Until Outlook Express was replaced by Windows Mail, most users computers d
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> Personally I would love to see Usenet replace localized Facebook groups. It actually happened the other way around. Local ISPs had newsgroups that had limited distribution where people local to you would post about upcoming events, th
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3y ago
> I can discover interesting subreddits by pure chance by following a google search on a question I have. Or following a link on a blog > There’s no chance of that happening on Usenet. You could the list of newsgroups for phrases that
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3y ago
> One thing to remember, you never see a post from your teenage self on USENET being dragged up by your employer causing you to be fired or loose out on a job. Why, privacy still exists on USENET. Google at one point did a very good job
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3y ago
> If Reddit just had an NNTP bridge, people would flock to it and never know the differece. I never really looked into it, but if someone were to make a NNTP bridge for reddit, Hacker News, and other similar websites, would it be against
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> Usenet was at one point a huge portion of internet traffic. Usenet posts were just text that may have been several kilobytes in size at most. If you look at binary newsgroups, the current level of internet traffic is quite large[1] (t
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3y ago
> How can I focus on a threaded conversation if I can't visually see the difference between the participants? Quickly looking at an avatar is easier than reading an email address. The from column in the thread pane view in my client
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3y ago
> Thunderbird was still pretty popular around then as well Thunderbird didn't come out until the early 2000s. The predecessors were Mozilla mail & news and Netscape Communicator. Seamonkey[1] is an offshoot of the former once
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3y ago
> Outlook Express was a shit show The main problem OE had was the quote wrapping problem that other clients didn't. The other was that it defaulted to top posting IIRC.
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> By the late 90s Usenet was well into the Eternal September and inundated with spam. Unmoderated groups were a mess. There was also just the simple problem of formatting. IIRC Outlook Express defaulted to MIME/multipart posts which
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3y ago
> There was also Outlook Express. It was the one client that never fixed their quoted text wrapping bug IIRC.
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> But as a commercial matter, you could not; if you didn't have binary groups, you weren't offering real Usenet (and if your binary feeds weren't ultra-reliable, you were offering shitty Usenet). None of the ISPs I had fro
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3y ago
And the yEncoding scheme also got rid of the 33% data size overhead inherent in base64 encoding. It's too bad that never made it over to email.
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3y ago
> Seems like nobody has mentioned a huge reason Usenet failed: > It needed a client program. Many services required client programs to use. Email did and still does unless you use webmail. And there are services that allow you to re
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> Yes it is slow People using it for binary downloads can pull down data at gigabit speeds. > it should still be kept as a no-frills alternative when things have to depend on low-bandwidth. It's unfortunate that most websites and
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3y ago
> Usenet really died in 2007 winter-2008 Spring, when all major ISPs killed their subscriber Usenet servers. They never officially stated why It was because the attorney general of New York (Andrew Cuomo) made a deal with major ISPs to r
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3y ago
> There's no reason a private/paid service addon to a client can't work for filtering. There should be no reason why a service can't provide that feature natively.
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> Client-side filtering requires awareness of client-side filtering. How many Reddit users want that ? Facebook users ? Facebook[1] and Reddit[2] both have a block user feature. It's a very rudimentary version of the killfile that
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> the "big event". (When ISP's everywhere killed Usenet servers, for what is pretty surely assumed as anti-piracy.) I thought this was due to the deal[1] that Andrew Cuomo (New York's attorney general at the time) mad
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> lack of notification method The way usenet clients worked was when new message headers were downloaded, the client would highlight unread messages. It's pretty similar to email where when you receive new messages, you can tell th
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> anonymity (email address not exposed) Quite a few people posted under pseudonyms with fake email addresses on usenet. > notifications When you downloaded new headers from the server, the client would highlight the new messages in a
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In my opinion, the main reason[1][2] for its decline in terms of text discussions was due to the deal that Andrew Cuomo (the attorney general of New York at the time) made with the major ISPs to restrict access to child pornography. This r
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> I do know what I saw with my own eyes What did you see with your own eyes. Were you a first hand witness of a ballot box stuffing incident? When and where did it happen? Did you take a video of it with sound? > video shows people
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3y ago
Buses do have radios where one can contact dispatch and other drivers.
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3y ago
Maybe employees should take that into account. If work hours are from 9 am through 5 pm, then the commute starts at 9 am and again at 4 pm.
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3y ago
I think people prefer mailing lists over nntp due to a number of reasons: 1. It's easier to set a mailing list up compared to creating a new newsgroup or setting up an on-premise NNTP server (is NNTP as a service even a thing?) 2. Most
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The only think that email lacks that nntp has is the ability to easily find messages from before you subscribed to the list (or were CC'd). With email, you could download a list archive and import it in your MUA, but with NNTP, you ca
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