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Interesting to see where Firefox is the most popular these days: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_by_most_used_web...
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> I keep thinking with Scala though, I'm going to run into some really awful looking code one day from someone overly abusing all of its feature I also keep thinking that, but it never really seems to happen in my experience.
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How long ago did it reach v1.0?
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For many use cases OO Scala works just fine, functional code used where it makes sense. Our goal is to integrate with existing systems, not to seek purely functional code as a goal in and of itself.
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Same experience here.
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We haven't had issues with Scala's syntax. Point is that Haskell isn't a viable option for most use cases.
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Does Haskell let me use the many Java libs that are used extensively internally in many organizations (including mine)?
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Nice idea, but please give it a name that makes the language easy to discuss and search for. There's no way I'm going to work on Monday and discussing: 'did you see that new language that I have no idea how it's pronounc
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IntelliJ and friends are great, but the default keymap is a train smash on most common Linux distros. Whoever thought ctrl+alt+right arrow was a good navigation shortcut?
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That's not the sort of thing you'll commonly see in real world Scala code. It's the sort of thing that might be used internally by a library, but not likely something you will come across day-to-day in Scala code. Every langu
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For those interested in learning Scala I'd recommend the free chapters from Scala for the Impatient: http://logic.cse.unt.edu/tarau/teaching/SCALA_DOCS/scala-for...
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As a Scala programmer I find Ruby syntax complex and inscrutable, almost like Perl.
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Perhaps he meant really good GCs in mainstream systems? It is a bit of an assertion on his part, but Java GCs are pretty advanced relative to most mainstream languages.
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We're very happy using Scala. I have a mild interest in Go, but Scala def. first choice.
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Thanks
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> At no point have I seen Go programmers hype up the language and attack others. Perhaps not "attack", but Go advocates tend to be very defensive about any criticism.
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> If you want a language which requires an IDE I didn't ask for a language which "requires" an IDE. I simply want to find a decent IDE for use when coding Go.
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Is there even a decent IDE for Go?
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In practice it's better suited to apps typically written in Java.
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Might be funny if this gets a knee-jerk upvote by the people who think it's about golang.
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Kotlin looks pretty nice (even as a dumbed-down Scala), but it hasn't even hit beta yet. I have yet to meet anyone actually using xtend.
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>I guess I'm less intelligent than most of the 12 year old kids in your country I think you just hit the nail on the head.
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If a language is 30x less efficient than another language then you would likely need 30x more servers. Many folk are simply not prepared to spend 30x more than they need to on hardware. It's the difference between 20 servers and 600 servers
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Honestly, Scala is far more expressive than Go and much more mature. Scala is more complex, but it's never really been an issue for me or my fellow devs. I'm not sure that "Native" vs "virtual" is a valid point of comparison. Scala uses the
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For many systems performance matters. Claiming that there is no difference between Ruby and C is just sticking your head in the sand.
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You'd probably be better of with Scalatra then...
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Assumptions and personal bias/preference it seems...
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>Off all the top performers, Go seems to be the only sane choice to write a web app How so? There's Clojure, Scala and others perfectly good choices on the list. The max latency for Go is also very high compared to most others.
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Most of them, yes. Most 12 year olds from my country are taught the names of all countries in the world and where to find them on a map and the names of the capital cities.
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>Because the headline is written according to the expected understanding of the American reader. Not exactly a high bar it seems...
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