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Qualcomm Loses Antitrust Lawsuit
(scribd.com)
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This is ridiculous. You are making it sound like those suppliers are immovable and somehow only available in China. But let's face it, Apple is in China because of almost unlimited cheap, unskilled rural labor force that can't b
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Yep, and China has been playing the same game with its neighboring countries for a while. Remember how China responded when South Korea brought THAAD for missile defense?
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Apple's been losing marketshare (and unit sales) while Chinese domestic companies' market share has been growing, so that balances things out. The world's #1 smartphone maker Samsung moved much (50%>) of their smartphone
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> ... as Microsoft’s free technical support for Windows 7 expires in January 2020. they are still on Windows 7? ouch!!!
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Well, one of the reasons is that that's what we've expected all along. When Samsung announced a major expansion in early 2010's, many analysts predicted the price glut in 2015-16 that followed. That memory price glut (and a
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Google "china ndrc dram price fixing -digitimes" If you are citing Wiki, you probably know very little about the older 2006 case. You seem to make haste assumption on what, how, and who are involed this time around without any fa
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> They've pled guilty in the original DRAM price fixing collusion and they just got sued last year for the same charge, it's ongoing. Now you are making stuff up. We are in 2018, not 2006. There is no regulatory investigation
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because there is no proof of collusion. Absolutely no need for any further regulation.
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I used to work for NYPL years back. Apparently there are also gangs having sex (eg, gang initiation) at some branches -- this topic was actually covered during my orientation. I agree many branches are essentially day-time shelters for hom
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it's illegal if and only if it can be proven that they coordinated their production cut. They all respond to the same changing market conditions -- they can't just continue increasing their production when the price continues it
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Well, at least Apple is not bashing competitor's innovation this time around, as they did with phablets ("nobody would buy something that big"), spen ("over my dead body"), or AMOLE ("awful), that's a pro
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> I wouldn’t be surprised based on the way it went with MP3 players, tablets, and even touchscreen phones in the first place. or it could go the way it went with phablets or AMOLED -- two related display techs that are relevant to this p
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I guess that's why there aren't too many Chinese made phones sold in the US.
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> Was this a classic case of dysfunctional corporate culture meaning nobody wanted to give the bosses bad news? I don't think Samsung would have done something like this for a mass consumer device, take for instance their recent S10
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not sure how Samsung would profit from selling a limited early adopter edition (by reservation) of experimental product? This isn't a mass consumer product. Samsung had explained that their customers would receive different kind of su
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serial killer?
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not for that age group. The average age for Foxconn workers I believe was 22 or 23, which is usually the lowest.
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That's exactly what the FTC did during their trial. The FTC lined up QCOM's competitors and had them testify that QCOM's patents were insignificant/inferior compared to their own patent portfolio. I'm fairly sure
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No. the problem here wasn't that Apple was a tough negotiator, but that it also lied to regulators around the world that QCOM violated their FRAND obligation by overcharging. The FTC obviously had no such proof that QCOM was "over
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I was actually quite disappointed that they settled at the last minute, as we no longer have access to juicy legal discovery that would have revealed Apple's rotten legal strategies and bad-faith practices. Now it's slowly becomin
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>That's an eternity in tech years but barely overnight in court years. That sounds like a lot of nonsense. No, it isn't the lack of time or convoluted legal process hindering the industry or discovery of such licensing violatio
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or I speculate Samsung didn't want to expose their folding implementation to competitors, who would rush to release "me-too" copies, just before Samsung's release.
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Are you saying that Royole's foldable is more mature? My understanding is that both Royole and Huawei announced their foldable without any release date slightly ahead of Samsung, just so that they could steal Samsung's spotlight.
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> ... how slowly courts and regulators move on things like this. By the time they get around to telling you to stop doing something you're already claiming that it's an established practice. Not really. We are talking about in
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This is obviously an early adopter edition of fairly interesting, futuristic product -- Samsung is likewise releasing it in limited quantity by reservation only. It's only gimmicky as phablets that many had denounced years ago.
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yes, true. QCOM's is completely legit and consistent with ETSI FRAND. Apple's hometown court Judge Koh ruled that under ATIS/TIA however it's a breach of FRAND obligation.
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It's a bit more nuanced than that. Under ETSI, where most of QCOM's SEPs (standard essential patents) are declared, licensing SEPs only to end-device makers is consistent with FRAND terms. It's essentially a contract law und
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> - QCOM's licensing model lives on The FTC's antitrust case is still on and Judge Koh's pre-trial decision on component-level licensing must be reversed to preserve QC's licensing model.
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Samsung Successfully Develops 5nm EUV Nodes
(wccftech.com)
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