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by tipiirai 2y ago
You're right - I should have been upfront about the documentation update. However, the point about "Less is More" being a fundamental coding philosophy was an important addition that better articulates how this principle shap
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You're not alone! The feedback form shows overwhelming relief from developers tired of complexity. Single-page applications will be the true test of the standards-first approach, as that's where the contrast with current practices
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Not pedantic at all. Markdown is not a web standard, but it enables standards first development by keeping things separate. Nue's Markdown implementation is also very different, much closer to MDX.
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> Depends on how you build things. Exactly! The more you put styling decisions into your components, the more you hardcode your visual design.
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I think this actually reveals the key misunderstanding. In a properly designed system, most of your codebase becomes CSS - often 90% or more when it comes to content-heavy websites written in Nue. The JavaScript handling pure functionality,
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I think this Iron Maiden argument is best explained on the article, specifically on the section about the design engineering problem.
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A lot is missing! Check out the vision and project status here: https://nuejs.org/vision/
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In content-heavy websites, yes. Single-page apps are a different game obviously. this is a real number when comparing Next.js blog starter to Nue's blog starter: https://nuejs.org/docs/compare.html
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I understand this concern deeply. For developers who've spent years mastering JavaScript patterns and component architectures, the idea of "returning to CSS" can feel like a step backward. They remember the pain points of glo
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Check out the Development Philosophy section on our contribution guidelines to understand the difference on Nue's coding style: https://github.com/nuejs/nue/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#dev... NOTE:
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Cool. So the original claim is firm: > Dieter Rams is the man behind Apple's design philosophy. (no need for him to work there to impact Ive's stance on design)
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The _why_ is extensively documented. See: https://nuejs.org/docs/ Also FAQ: https://nuejs.org/docs/faq.html
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I want to address Markdown and it's role in standards first development. While MD itself isn't a web standard, it's a strategic choice that reinforces standards-first development by generating pure, semantic HTML. This create
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works with Node too
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Jony Ive specifically has said he looks up to Dieter Rams and his philosophy
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Flutter fundamentally misunderstands web standards and separation of concerns. It imposes a custom rendering engine and widget system on top of the web platform, creating another layer of abstraction rather than leveraging native browser ca
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I can answer these questions very clearly once the design systems are released. Now they are just listed with plain text to give you an idea what's coming.
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Gotcha. My next argument is going to be visual trough the design systems explained on the article. Hope that's clearer.
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In Nue you're literally writing standard HTML, CSS and JavaScript when developing websites. Your Markdown- based content generates semantic HTML. Your styling is pure CSS with modern features like nesting and container queries. JavaScr
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In Nue you're literally writing standard HTML, CSS and JavaScript. Your Markdown- based content generates semantic HTML. Your styling is pure CSS with modern features like nesting and container queries. JavaScript remains vanilla JavaS
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The issue is the coupling of HTML and CSS into your JavaScript code, which is a step away from the standards first development model.
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This blog is for introducing people to Nue's development model rather than a guide to minimalistic design. See https://nuejs.org/docs/tutorial.html
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Nue is currently mostly just for static sites, but as the article states the development is building towards single-page applications too, keeping the idea of separation of concerns at core. For reactivity, Nue's client-side library pr
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Lit has indeed done important work in standards-first development through web components. But the issue is that Lit still approaches web development through the lens of components. While these components may be "standard" web comp
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This is about the gap between Figma and React/Tailwind/CSS-in-JS, which is wider than Figma -> CSS
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HTML for layout, Markdown for content. How else could it be?
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React is cool, but there is a point on removing unnecessary abstractions and going standards first. Check: https://nuejs.org
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Author here: this is Nue's new, more natural direction. Our previous focus on design engineers and CSS design systems was accurate, but missed the most important point: the web platform itself has evolved to eliminate the need for most
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A standards-first web framework(nuejs.org)
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by tipiirai 2y ago
Well said. I can strongly feel this happening in Finland, which became a racist country in one year.

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