tipiirai

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   by tipiirai 3y ago

   > a lot of frontend libraries unfortunately tend to crumple once the long tail has been reached Example please. Which libraries are we talking about?
2. 452.▲
   by tipiirai 3y ago

   I'm looking at it right now: > mobx-keystone is a state container that combines the simplicity and ease of mutable data with the traceability of immutable data and the reactiveness and performance of observable data, all with a full
3. 453.▲
   by tipiirai 3y ago

   Thanks. Will fix all that in the upcoming weeks. I'm claiming that mixing logic, content, layout, and styling is spaghetti.
4. 454.▲
   by tipiirai 3y ago

   Exactly. Nue is an _alternative_
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   by tipiirai 3y ago

   Node or Bun is required. Not planning to support client-side compilation and running exec() on the browser. I have super vague plans to make a Zig-based compilation to work natively in Bun and runnable from other languages too. But later...
6. 456.▲
   by tipiirai 3y ago

   I assume you have chosen Vue as your go-to framework due to this reasoning? (React and Svelte are JavaScript)
7. 457.▲
   by tipiirai 3y ago

   I hear you. I'll try to convert you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ in the upcoming months when I address your points with the new tools and code examples.
8. 458.▲
   by tipiirai 3y ago

   Thanks. Fixed
9. 459.▲
   by tipiirai 3y ago

   I hear you
10. 460.▲
    by tipiirai 3y ago

    This was my favourite complaint of the day. Thank you Kunley!
11. 461.▲
    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Seems legit observation to me
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    petite-vue is about 3x bigger than Nue. here's the script: https://nuejs.org/@nue/js/nue.js local gzip on my machine is 2.3kb
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Hey fellow devs. I'm heading to Finnish forrest to practise disc golf. Will answer to all the critical questions later this evening. I'm so happy this launch went well and I'm super motivated to build a great, minimalistic fr
14. 464.▲
    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Thank you!! This means a lot actually and gives me motivation to implement everything on the roadmap.
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Totally agree with "HTML: 0 lines" is the best pick in most, if not all situations. For example the Headless UI radio group component [1], can be implemented with just HTML and CSS — and they made it a huge JS component. [1]: htt
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Please check the original post. This is a launch of the first item (Nue JS) in a new, uccoming frontend development ecosystem. One part of the ecosystem is a project called "Nue CSS", which aims to bring developers back to more st
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Nue CSS is like SASS, but more minimal and more in line with the current standards. Think CSS variables instead of template variables. It's pretty vocal about semantic CSS and separation of concerns once it's public. The main thin
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Bun is really awesome! I'm using it to develop Nue. It runs the minimalistic code in instant. Everything is sooo fast and pleasant. Test suites finish as soon as I release the Enter key.
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Exactly. And bundlers are quite big monsters. Vite, for example is 32MB on disk.
20. 470.▲
    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Not a build tool, but rather a web application builder with support for multi-page applications (aka. websites) and single-page applications. Vite is (mostly) a SPA application builder so that's why it is mentioned.
21. 471.▲
    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Thanks! I fixed the links. Here is the correct one: https://nuejs.org/compare/faq.html
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Thanks for the pointer. Quasar seems more like an UI library. Like Material UI or Chakra. Not directly comparable with Nue JS. It's comparable with the upcoming Nue UI though: https://nuejs.org/ecosystem/
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Nice. Thanks for the encouragement!
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Yes. Nue is probably not a good pick for people who really like things like React and Tailwind. It's more like going backwards in time when standard HTML, CSS, and vanilla JavaScript was a thing.
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Nue does not try to be a new starndard. It tries to bring web developers closer to web standards: HTML, CSS, DOM, and plain JavaScript. New developers today start with React, learn hooks, adopt Tailwind, and writes TypeScript and distance
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Depends on whether Nue becomes relevant. New projects are obviously unknown to AI, but they learn as the world starts adopting them.
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    Yes. Nue is indeed HTML-based and takes inspiration from Vue. It is designed for UX developers who prefer to use HTML/CSS and minimal JavaScript to communicate with the business model layer, that the JS developers are building. That is
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    I changed the wording to "Amount of HTML/CSS/JS on the project home page" on the front page. Thanks for the heads up.
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    I've been looking at HTMX. It's good for HTML/CSS/UX developers to add dynamic pieces to a multi-page application. However, It's quite different from what Nue attempts to be. Nue is meant for building both dynamic i
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    by tipiirai 3y ago

    State manager / Router is on the roadmap. Check "Nue MVC" from https://nuejs.org/ecosystem/