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throwaway201103
6y ago
> continue to say the election was stolen, and to say you love them You left out the last sentence, which was (paraphrasing) "Go home, go in peace."
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throwaway201103
6y ago
He has said he will not attend the inauguration. He has said there will be an orderly transition of power, so that implies he acknowledges Biden as the president-elect, or at least realizes that he's out of challenges. True that he has
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throwaway201103
6y ago
Then why did they file the cases? Did they not realize that they would need to present evidence under oath?
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throwaway201103
6y ago
I've been reading a bit of Noam Chomsky this afternoon, not a person I'd agree with politically but many of his observations ring true regardless. "The key element of social control is the strategy of distraction that is to d
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throwaway201103
6y ago
> made clear rulings based on the evidence. At least some, maybe most of those challenges were dismissed on procedural grounds, lack of standing, etc. They never got to the point of examining the "evidence." Maybe the retort to
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throwaway201103
6y ago
That's likely true for some. But many people do belive there was fraud. I think there were some very suspect things about the election. But I read Article II, and the 12th amendment. The congress is directed to count the Electoral vote
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throwaway201103
6y ago
Well, he did tell people to calm down and go home. May have been some of the tweets that were quickly taken down?
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throwaway201103
6y ago
That's a very disturbing read.
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throwaway201103
6y ago
By definition if you are delusional aren't you unaware of it?
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throwaway201103
6y ago
Indeed, I read the GP hastily.
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throwaway201103
6y ago
There police protests included riots, arson, looting, and murders. Harris didn't condemn this until months later when specifically pressed on the point. Just as Trump has always condemned violence when specifically asked.
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6y ago
> The idea of someone running warrant checks on the basis of a broken tail light is antithetical to notions like the presumption of innocence and right to privacy. Hm, there's definitely a line somewhere. I'm with you in that I
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6y ago
Maybe so. Neither you nor I were on the jury though. We don't just get to ignore a jury decision and impose our own personal justice because from the outside it doesn't seem fair. There were two blacks on the jury, according to wh
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throwaway201103
6y ago
So you believe that the crowd protesting and at the Capitol were all white supremacists?
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throwaway201103
6y ago
Well, since there was an investigation, criminal charges, and a jury trial, it sounds like it was "explained" as much as our system is capable of.
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throwaway201103
6y ago
Zero chance any of that would have happened. It certainly could have gotten more ugly than it was. But a loosely organized mob of protestors is not going to achieve that. One SWAT team, or the military if necessary, would have dealt with it
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throwaway201103
6y ago
Feeds into the conspiracy theories that it was all orchestrated by the left. Sets them up perfectly to crack down hard on their opponents.
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throwaway201103
6y ago
Especially on a day when there was a large protest planned for a vote taking place. It's a government building and it should be reasonably open to the public but common sense needs to raise its head at some point. Securing the buildi
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throwaway201103
6y ago
This is also the case for cops shooting unarmed people.
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throwaway201103
6y ago
OK, so then you're going to have some explaining to do when someone with a warrant commits another violent crime, and it turns out that the week prior he was pulled over for some traffic violation and was let go.
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throwaway201103
6y ago
No, there were people also saying that the protestors should have been shot. On this very website, IIRC (rightly downvoted), but certainly on other platforms.
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throwaway201103
6y ago
Both can be true.
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throwaway201103
6y ago
So a traffic stop shouldn't involve a check for outstanding warrants?
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throwaway201103
6y ago
As a thought experiment, imagine Trump won by a small margin. Do you think we would have heard no unfounded accusations of fraud? No challenges in court? No protests and riots? After the year we've had? And if, on January 6, as Congres
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throwaway201103
6y ago
HN has a lot of discussion that doesn't turn into partisan debate. When it does, it's the same as anywhere else.
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throwaway201103
6y ago
Chuck Schumer compared it to Pearl Harbor. I assumed that was why it was mentioned.
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throwaway201103
6y ago
If Trump wanted to stay in power why didn't he order the military to sieze the Congress and declare martial law? He thought a loosely organized band of civilian protestors were going to actually keep him in office?
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No I feel the same way. When online discussion turns into debate, nothing is achieved. People use canned, cliched arguments and it's just a back and forth trying to have the last word until someone gives up.
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throwaway201103
6y ago
In the US (and I assume also Canada) it's almost the exact opposite. Custom order cars are possible, but rare. The vast majority of new cars sold are built with a factory-chosen set of options and sold from dealer inventory. Transferri
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throwaway201103
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Yet we allow people to replace almost any part on the car themeselves, with varying grades of quality made by aftermarket or OE manufacturers. Brakes, suspension components, body panels, electical components, etc. purchased from Amazon and
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